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pettelly
OK I know I should be happy and I really really am. 18 months ago I would have been crying with relief to know I would even be asking this!

D is now WR on the 50th percentile which is her historic growth curve. She has become an absolute joy in her behaviour and in general - much nicer as a person than she was before the ED (although that might be an age thing!) and very very appreciative and grateful for all we have done for her which is lovely. She had a nasty D and V virus a couple of weeks ago and bravely kept on eating through it as she knew she couldn't not eat. 

However, recently she has started eating as though it's going out of fashion and she's piling on weight and above her curve. She doesn't stop eating! For example, she had her regular breakfast then I sat and played a game with her and she kept on makign herself endless slices of toast and peanut butter. She had some lunch and then went to a party where she said she ate a ton of junk (and I believe her!).This evening she ate a normal dinner, then made herself beans on toast, then honey on toast then rice cakes and honey because she'd finished all the bread! Then she had mozzarella balls with crackers. Then she finished all the ice cream in the freezer. Now I saw she's watching a movie with her sister and munching through a pack of pretzels plus extra snacks. 

Obviously I don't care. The more weight she puts on, the stronger our safety barrier is in my opinion. And she's enjoying the food which is great. But she isn't too happy about the weight gain and I'm really worried she might start restricting if she puts on too much. She's asked to start to go to the gym so we've okayed this (husband will go with her to ensure it's not extreme) as exercise is part of a normal and healthy lifestyle.
 
Is this normal? Anyone else gone through this voluntary and spontaneous eating large amoutns as part of recovery? 
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scaredmom
So I have seen this topic come up a few times. We did/do not have the overeating, so I cannot comment personally, but here is a thread that you may find useful.
https://www.aroundthedinnertable.org/post/weight-restored-but-mood-awful-9993989?pid=1307055835

Now I can congratulate you on a job well done! WR and better mood, how great is that!
I know others will be here soon with their experiences soon to answer your questions.

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Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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pettelly
I had seen something about the Minnesota study and told D (although I thought they did go back to their normal weights in the end) which reassured her a bit.

We had some binging with some attempts at purging during recovery (in fact, not so long ago) but this is very different. She's eating happily and openly (binging was done secretly in her room and made her feel awful mood wise) and hoovering up more or less everything all day with zero attempts to purge or guilt feelings (other than a general 'oh my god, i am eating so much'). 
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scaredmom
How long has it been going on? If just a short time, it may sort itself out. 
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Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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pettelly
It's quite recent. I'd say it really started during a recent holiday to Italy over Christmas (weirdly only the second half of the trip, the first few days she was difficult about things). Kind of assumed it was because, well, Italy 🙂 And at that point she still had a kilo or so to go so we thought it was great. But it seems to have triggered something and since then she's just been eating like crazy with no prompting from us and has gained about 3 or 4 kg since beginning of Jan despite having had 2 weeks with a nasty stomach bug! 
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pettelly
This is a very different beast to the binging we had before. It's not a specifc event and D is not ashamed or embarrassed. Maybe it's still classed as binging but I'd just call it eating a lot! She says she wants to exercise becuase she's now WR and wants to slow the weight gain and be more healthy but also is enjoying eating a lot and wants to keep doing it. Maybe it's purging but, again,  it doesn't sound like it to me, she sounds normal and any gym exercise will be supervised by her dad as they'll go together so he'll make sure it's not excessive. I hope we're getting this right and it's not a variant of  binge/purge!
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Mamaroo
You already got some good advice, I can only add that if you are worried you can restrict 'binge' food, which is usually carbs (bread, sweets, crisps etc) and stock up with food full of fat and protein, such as nuts, peanuts (not salted), frozen yogurt, full fat cheeses etc. If she goes to the gym, let let do more weight training that running on a treadmill. If the gym had circuits, that is also good as it rotates through different exercising equipment and has a definite start and finishing time.
D became obsessed with exercise at age 9 and started eating 'healthy' at age 9.5. Restricting couple of months later. IP for 2 weeks at age 10. Slowly refed for months on Ensures alone, followed by swap over with food at a snails pace. WR after a year at age 11 in March 2017. View my recipes on my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKLW6A6sDO3ZDq8npNm8_ww
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melstevUK
Hi petelly,

When my d finally recovered she started eating a lot and I have to say that I was quite anxious because I knew the weight would start piling on more than she would have wanted.  There was one point when (for her) she looked almost fat.  But I knew that it would have been disastrous to say anything at that stage.  It took well over a year until her weight settled - and during that time she started going to the gym.  She didn't like her new body - she seemed to realise that she had gone too far, and now doesn't restrict at all, but is just careful in a normal kind of way about what she eats and how much.  She is fully recovered, but wants to be toned and has found a pretty normal way of managing her life.

I knew she was recovered when she gave up the vegetarianism - and there was a time when with sheer joy she ate every meat going - including rabbit and lamb.  Now she has found a balance - she will eat chicken and fish, loves prawns and smoked salmon but prefers to eat red meat only occasionally.  She will not touch lamb or rabbit because she is still hugely loving of animals and now tries to balance health with her beliefs.

Personally, I don't see your d's exercising as purging - and as long as she keeps up with the eating, I would not encourage any kind of restriction at all - she will find it in her own time.

This is quite a tricky stage to manage and you just have to keep observing and monitoring and deciding is this a return to good health or back to illness.  

I don't know how old your d is but this definitely sounds like recovery to me - with the self-awareness that overeating to such an extent will bring its own difficulties.

I think my d's over-eating period probably lasted around three to six months.
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt.
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kangamum
Thanks for this thread, this is exactly where my d, almost 17, is now. She is ravenous, and especially for high fat food. One of her fear foods was pancakes with butter and maple syrup, she now asks for extra butter on them while really brings a smile to my face. I have had to face my own fears about her weight gain, we are so conditioned by our fat-phobic culture that too much weight is bad so I am super aware of what I am bringing to the table so to speak.

D has had a major growth spurt, not in height, but her body is now womanly, which she loves. I read a lot about the Minnesota guys post-refeeding, and some of them chose to eat 10000 calories a day. They were ravenous too. I have no idea what happened to my d internally when she starved herself, but I'm sure there is a lot of rebuilding going on where I cannot see. She is still very reliant on me to prepare food for her, and I am quite happy to keep doing that until she is older. No need to rush, I'm just watching and enjoying the new world we have found ourselves in. 
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Mamaroo
Hi Kangamum, great to hear your d now loves her former fear food and that she is doing so well. You are right, that a lot of repair works goes on unseen, especially the brain, which consists of 60% fat. Just keep on feeding as your d would still be reliant on you for some time. Enjoy the new world!
D became obsessed with exercise at age 9 and started eating 'healthy' at age 9.5. Restricting couple of months later. IP for 2 weeks at age 10. Slowly refed for months on Ensures alone, followed by swap over with food at a snails pace. WR after a year at age 11 in March 2017. View my recipes on my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKLW6A6sDO3ZDq8npNm8_ww
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Kiwimum03
Just a quick question what is WR, thanks?
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scaredmom
Weight restored
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Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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