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melstevUK wrote:
Hi hopeforkate,

I understand yours and also your d's point of view - but I am intrigued by the 'mostly vegan' comment.  This does imply that you have some non-vegan and presumably vegetarian ingredients at times.  

I don't know what these would be - but if the diets of your family are 'mostly vegan', then I would certainly encourage your d to add whatever you are having into her diet.  The less restriction the better, ultimately.  

Also, were your sons occasionally out with friends and having pizza for example, to fit in and to be sociable?  It is quite difficult to pursue a vegan diet and socialise unless you go out specifically to vegan restaurants, I imagine.

Just my observations.

Oh, the 'mostly' vegan label was simply because might buy an accidentally non-vegan product with dairy in it. 

Yes, she is doing wonderfully. She has regained her love of baking, and baked us all a big loaf of walnut-raisin bread! She actually added oil, a generous amount of walnuts, and a good amount of maple syrup!

My sons, in the case they go out to eat with friends, make do- most restaurants here have some vegan options. If they were to go to a, say, pizza restaurant, they simply ask for no cheese on a couple of slices. 
I am the mostly vegan mother of a non-vegan d in solid, though early, recovery. I knew an actor once who, if he had to gain weight for a role, ate mostly plant-based foods to gain weight as he felt it was better for him. He sometimes had to gain more than 10kgs in a short time. So it is quite possible. He did not have an ED, just sayin'.
As for recipes Mexican food is terrific and very high calorie. Frijoles, or mashed bean dip, can absorb a huge amount of oil, layered onto corn chips (which can be 'refreshed' from the packet into a pan of hot oil), salsa of some kind (again a tomato based sauce with lots of olive oil), vegan cheese (many very high in fat, look around) and baked or grilled. Smother it with vegan sour cream (softened with oil as it can be quite thick, Tofutti brand available in Australia and US) and guacamole by the gallon! Again avos can absorb oil as well as having a lot naturally!
Thai food is very high fat, get the fried tofu puffs, fry them again, then make a curry with curry paste and coconut cream (not milk). Make the rice up with coconut milk as previously suggested and it is really full of fat.
We make lots of dips with nuts, process cashews or almonds or macadamias with olive oil, tahini, and flavourings of choice eg garlic, lemon juice, herbs. Spread on sandwiches or for arvo tea (afternoon tea here in Australia 😄) with crackers. These dips can be quite oily when bought commercially so feel free to go hard with the oil!
We soak cashews overnight (or for a fast soak leave in boiling water for an hour). These can then be used in smoothies, as a base for creamy pasta sauces. Grind up cashews or almonds with garlic powder and nutritional yeast as a substitute for Parmesan which is also calorific.
I make a savoury granola, which is seeded and Dijon mustards, mixed with lots of olive oil, oats, fresh herbs like thyme or Rosemary, sunflower seeds (cheap and very high in fat - 1 cup has 72gms fat!!) and almond meal. Bake it 350degrees till toasted, turning every 10 mins or so. I sprinkle this heavily onto salads, roast vegetables (cooked in lots and lots of oil, then cooled in the oil so it soaks in), on pretty much everything.
Lebanese food is popular in Australia, so lots of tahini in dressings (thin tahini with fresh orange juice), falafel (chickpea patties, put into cold oil then heat up for max calories) and full of sunflower seeds ground up. Sunflower seeds are much cheaper here than nuts, which can get pricey if you eat a lot of them.
Some ideas to go on with, these can be eaten by everyone of course. Fat is fat is fat in my book. Good luck.
Our story is that D became a vegan at 13, to loose weight. So ultimately did not have the ideology that goes with veganism. Where we live is useless for eating out anywhere that promotes or serves vegan food, so in the early days D avoided to go out, not good. D found it extremely hard to stay on a vegan diet when she started the recovery process, it made her look at foods in more detail that she would not bother with before and just added more stress. 1.5 years later and only recently, she is no longer a vegan and feels much better having a full, healthy diet. her portions are not too big either, unless she has couscous (which she absolutely loves) This is just our experience and is not meant to judge anyone who is vegan and in recovery, it was just too hard for my D personally.

I did find some good 700cal recipes though and wanted to share. You can add more oil etc to these.

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clem x
D15, Restrictive AN. 5' 8" and 51kg. Diagnosed and hospitalised in Sept 2017 for 9 days. At home since in recovery/relapse/recovery. In the trenches and tackling FBT. Not a vegan anymore!
I haven't posted for years - but this thread was of interest. My D was vegan for a couple of years before the ED hit (at about 15 years old). She made that choice strictly for ethical reasons (was a healthy size, weight, no preoccupation with food, etc.). But I am certain this choice sent her down a path that increased her susceptibility to ED. During recovery, we insisted that she eat all foods. No restriction. No fears. And she did (though indeed - re-feeding was one of the hardest things I have ever done in my life). The only exception we made was pig or cow. About 3 years post recovery (and at this time my D was in university, living away from home), she asked if she could go back to vegan eating. I very clearly expressed my concerns and objections. I was quite devastated by the discussion. I told her I felt vegan eating for someone with an ED was like a recovering alcoholic working in a pub. Too close for comfort. But she was quite adamant. So - we set guidelines. I wanted to know about (and see) the food she was buying, preparing and eating. If, at any point, we had any concern about her weight - we reserved the right to put her on a scale, and if need be, bring her home permanently. She agreed to the conditions and even said she felt better knowing they were in place. It is more than a year later. She has not lost any weight. She eats well and enthusiastically, as a vegan. However - I still hate it. I believe it puts her at risk. Any food restriction or preoccupation puts her at risk. She is coming home this weekend, and asked if we can spend the day on Sunday making food for her to take back to school. I am encouraged by those things. But if I had my druthers, I would definitely prefer she eat all foods, without restrictions. Even more so because she is a vegan - I wait in fear for a relapse.