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countrymama05

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I just read two articles about links between OCD, AN, ADHD, ADD and other disorders listed with Vaccinations.
In the 12 months before DD was diagnosed she had 10 vaccinations. 10!!!
After reading these articles my heart just sank.

Any thoughts?

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Hi Countrymama05,

As far as I know there have been no medical studies that prove without a doubt that vaccinations cause OCD, AN, ADHD or ADD.

I'm not saying I'm an expert, and I'm certainly not a doctor, but I've done quite a bit of reading about medical studies and different medical aspects of Anorexia. The consensus seems to be that it is a biologically based brain disorder which can be influenced by genetics and with metabolism also playing a part.

Don't feel guilty that you may have somehow inadvertently contributed to your daughter's illness by consenting to have her vaccinated. 

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Yes I want to know about this. I also found out there is a connection. There was a Yale study that said that 80 percent of kids that developed Anorexia had vaccinations within 3 months before. My daughter had the menangitis vaccine 3 months before suddenly developing Anorexia and before that she hadn't had vaccines for several years.
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debra18 and countrymama05,

Please provide citations and/or links for the articles and study you reference.

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Hi EDAction

Here is the link to the Yale study article: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2017.00003/full

The article was published in the Frontiers in Psychiatry journal. Research journals come in various standards and reputations. I used to work in the academia and the university would accept publications in certain journals, but not in others. The gold standard being Nature. There are some concerns with this journal, and they have published articles linking autism with vaccinations.

Here are some reviews of the journal:
https://forbetterscience.com/2015/10/28/is-frontiers-a-potential-predatory-publisher/
http://neuroconscience.com/2016/01/15/is-frontiers-in-trouble/index.html

I can just add my own experience. The last routine vaccine my d had was several years before the onset of AN. She did have a flu vaccine the year before (9 months before more or less) and more importantly she had one 1 month after being discharged from IP and it made no difference to her eating. 
 

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Hi,

To quote from the article:

These findings warrant further investigation, but do not prove a causal role of antecedent infections or vaccinations in the pathoetiology of these conditions.

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Subjects with newly diagnosed AN were more likely than controls to have had any vaccination in the previous 3 months


Also I'm not understanding why children who get anorexia would be vaccinated more that other children? Vaccinations are done on a schedule, at least in the US, and all children get them according to how old they are if they are going for yearly checkups as recommended.

My daughter had not had any vaccinations in the 3 months prior to onset of her illness. 

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Same with us, no vaccinations in the 2 years before AN.

I think it will be difficult to proof a relationship with that because most kids have vaccinations at that age.
If you compare it to "eating burgers", you will find many kids who ate a burger before developping AN but you would not say because of that "eating burgers cause AN".

And there was AN before men had vaccinations.

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I just read two articles about links between OCD, AN, ADHD, ADD and other disorders listed with Vaccinations.
In the 12 months before DD was diagnosed she had 10 vaccinations. 10!!!
After reading these articles my heart just sank.

Any thoughts?



https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2017/02/21/vaccines-linked-to-mental-disorders-by-yale-study/

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Hi - I'd have to agree with the other Mamas - unfortunately, so many have tried to tie vaccinations to disorders.  You really did do the right thing in getting your child vaccinated - please don't second guess yourself.  Hugs : )
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This makes me so 😡.really really angry.
It’s like those idiot flat earthers or people who are dumb enough to believe vaccines cause autism.their beliefs can be genuinely harmful and so can this belief.
Vaccines have side effects on rare occasions.
They do not cause autism, or adhd-there will be a family history,acknowledged or not.
When it comes to anorexia it’s in the genes.
My d had no vaccines leading up to her anorexia.she had her last ones at 11, anorexia happened at 15.my son and other daughter have had some eating issues that have cropped up, irrespective of their vaccines.
The anti vax people are costing lives and it makes me cross.even being friends with several of them has not changed my opinion,we just agree to disagree.
Please don’t ever second guess being a responsible parent.

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Hi, please don't worry about this Countrymama.  

What age do your kids have vaccinations?  And what age do eating disorders most commonly begin?  I imagine they're around the same time... just like with the MMR fiasco.  Children had their MMR at around the same age that kids with autism commonly start to show symptoms or a regression of skills.  That research by Andrew Wakefield was thrown out in a huge scandal, and has quite possibly led to several unnecessary deaths of children who subsequently weren't vaccinated. 

The direct trigger for my daughter's anorexia aged 8 was a fear that if she ate a lot she would block the toilet (and we'd all drown).  I've only recently found out that this stemmed back to a time when she saw a blocked toilet.... around a year before she started restricting. 

It's no more your fault that your daughter became unwell after vaccinations than it is my fault that mine got ill a year after seeing a blocked toilet.  Should I have prevented her from ever seeing such a thing?  No way, how could I have known?  Please don't be hard on yourself xx
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I am not saying that people shouldn't get vaccines or feel guilty if they did. And I am not speaking for anyone else. I am just saying that in my daughter's situation the vaccine may have been one of the triggers as it could cause swelling in the brain. Someone mentioned that pandas causing swelling in the brain and triggered Anorexia. Also in 2015 there was a discussion about concussion or brain injury as a possible trigger. I am refeeding my daughter anyway and she is doing very well. Almost WR and most AN behaviors disappeared. I am not trying to cause an argument. Just for my own understanding I would like to know why it is impossible that vaccines can cause brain swelling?
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