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Talking tonight with my non-ED twin, Seventh Grade, about an project at school she is excited for - - they are making quesadillas and smoothies this week in Home Economics (not called that anymore but I don't know what FCS stands for).  Out of innocent curiosity, I asked what is the unit about, like, what are they actually studying that this is the cooking lab?  She replied "you are not going to like it."  Then said, it is about nutrition and how to eat healthy.  She smirked and said, "you are going to want to kill them when {twin sister} gets there."  

Then she showed me the material -- I'll just give you this sentence and it is a pretty good idea of why she knows I will want to address it when ED Twin takes that course next (quarter?  semester?). 

Here is my favorite quote from the textbook pages I saw:
"Water is the single most important substance you take into your body.  You can get along for days, even weeks, without food.  You can only survive a few days without water."  Thanks for the info, school. Crucial info for every twelve year old. 

It is truly exhausting trying to stay on top of all the fronts:  science class; Home Ec; PE; annual height/weight school checks; Health Class; not to mention the multiple doctors who are all well-intended and none actually wrong, but all on different pages at different times with slightly different messages/means that muddy everything.

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It is so great to hear that she (non ED d) is aware of the problem and realised that you will explode when reading that!

I think I would have phoned the school immediately! I can imagine what you thought after reading that.
Please try to contact school AND the company that sells the textbook because that is something that cannot be accepted at all! Maybe you can send it to the FEAST team so they can get in contact with the person who is in charge for that.
And do avoid that ED twin will take part in any of those classes!

No words. We really need to fight on all sides.

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This is so frustrating, and as you say, pervasive. Yes, I brought something like this to the attention of my D's school and they referred me to the provincial government as they have no say in textbooks. Awaiting their response. It is ridiculous, though.
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You can get along for days, even weeks, without food.

It should at least be "in extreme situations like an earthquake you can get along for days, even weeks, without food" and it should be added that this will do great harm to the body but not kill you if it is only short time.

But I really do not know why a 12 year old in a civilizated country needs to know that.


If that textbook would have said "You do not die from smoking some cigarettes when you are young" you would hear an explosion going around on media...that sentence is as "true" as the one above.

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You can get along for days, even weeks, without food.

It should at least be "in extreme situations like an earthquake you can get along for days, even weeks, without food" and it should be added that this will do great harm to the body but not kill you if it is only short time.

But I really do not know why a 12 year old in a civilizated country needs to know that.


If that textbook would have said "You do not die from smoking some cigarettes when you are young" you would hear an explosion going around on media...that sentence is as "true" as the one above.


Agreed on all counts.  And also, assuming an otherwise healthy adult.


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Mom of either pre-diagnosis or non-ed underweight 12 yoa (as of March 2018) kid here to learn how to achieve weight gain.  BMI steadily in the mid 12's for nearly her entire life.  Born 2006. UPDATE:  April 2018 diagnosed ARFID, based solely on weight being less than 75% of Ideal Body Weight.  Mildly picky, but mostly the problem is a volume/early satiety issue, along with abdominal discomfort and chronic constipation, all present since birth. FWIW ED-D is a fraternal twin and we have no other kids.
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Infuriating!

It's a constant battle, really.  I'm a teacher, and the text book THAT I CHOSE has tips on how to lose weight.  (I missed it, and probs would have chosen the text anyway.  My choices are limited.) It is a foreign language text book, for crying out loud!

Of course I skip the bad bits, and chat to my students (yes, my FL students) about what healthy eating looks like.  No restrictions!  All food is good!  Lots of variety!  I also regularly serve sweets under the guise of cultural experiences.  

Good luck with your battle.  I'm with you in spirit.

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Wow, you would certainly not expect there to be issues like that in a foreign language book.  But then again, it really is everywhere.  Ads on tv; comments from friends; off-handed remarks in otherwise "safe" tv shows; morning radio (one of the worst); etc.  I am probably not going to pull her from the classes because I have no thought that she would remain insulated from the same messages in a myriad other venues -- but there is something particularly offensive about it being taught, intentionally, by a teacher as part of the actual curriculum (not incidental in a foreign language book or on tv by actors).  So I am not sure what I'll do -- if it were one class for a definitive time, it would be easier to just take her out. But I know it is much more ingrained in the curriculum than that so I think I will just arm her with more medically accurate information and try to combat the propaganda that way. Also I will talk to the teachers and hopefully they will agree to modify the message by indicating how how the textbook is incomplete in its message and stress the importance of young bodies eating regularly and gaining weight to fuel growth, etc.   In elementary school I had decent success with talking to the teachers, so we'll see how it goes here in middle school.
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Mom of either pre-diagnosis or non-ed underweight 12 yoa (as of March 2018) kid here to learn how to achieve weight gain.  BMI steadily in the mid 12's for nearly her entire life.  Born 2006. UPDATE:  April 2018 diagnosed ARFID, based solely on weight being less than 75% of Ideal Body Weight.  Mildly picky, but mostly the problem is a volume/early satiety issue, along with abdominal discomfort and chronic constipation, all present since birth. FWIW ED-D is a fraternal twin and we have no other kids.
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Wow, you would certainly not expect there to be issues like that in a foreign language book.  But then again, it really is everywhere.  Ads on tv; comments from friends; off-handed remarks in otherwise "safe" tv shows; morning radio (one of the worst); etc.  I am probably not going to pull her from the classes because I have no thought that she would remain insulated from the same messages in a myriad other venues -- but there is something particularly offensive about it being taught, intentionally, by a teacher as part of the actual curriculum (not incidental in a foreign language book or on tv by actors).  So I am not sure what I'll do -- if it were one class for a definitive time, it would be easier to just take her out. But I know it is much more ingrained in the curriculum than that so I think I will just arm her with more medically accurate information and try to combat the propaganda that way. Also I will talk to the teachers and hopefully they will agree to modify the message by indicating how how the textbook is incomplete in its message and stress the importance of young bodies eating regularly and gaining weight to fuel growth, etc.   In elementary school I had decent success with talking to the teachers, so we'll see how it goes here in middle school.



I think you are very wise. We cannot escape these messages, unfortunately.
I think talking to the teachers will be helpful. Part of this ED and ARFID stuff is educating our kids that they will be bombarded with so much info about everything in life and they have to learn how to"get to the truth". The truth for them with respect to nutrition, may apply to some people but not all people and for sure not to them. So frustrating, I know.
Good luck
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