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aensley
I am trying to help my daughter follow the Kartini meal plan. I would love any dinner suggestions. We have been following the meal plan for a few weeks and so far things are going well! I'm hopeful for the first time in three years!
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Red
Hi Alice, welcome to the forum. I'm afraid that I am not familiar with meal plans but there is a 'High Calorie Meals' thread that might help. I'm sure many others will be along soon.
The future is not set; there is no fate but that which we make for ourselves.

"Not my daughter, you bitch." Mrs. Weasley
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RAWR12

Red wrote:
Hi Alice, welcome to the forum. I'm afraid that I am not familiar with meal plans but there is a 'High Calorie Meals' thread that might help. I'm sure many others will be along soon.


I think I've found it (or at least one of them):
http://www.kartiniclinic.com/assets/DTU_Home_meal_plan_3-1-10.pdf

Unfortunately, I can't really come up with any recipes. It pretty much states the ingredients you're limited to so it's rather hard to be creative. You can always try mixing up the combinations - like say, have fish and rice one day, then swap to chicken, then have pasta, etc (so there's always variety).

Well, if you're allowed to mix things up a bit, you could have:

2oz beef+1/3cup beans, one of the tortilla servings, 2tbsp sour cream + 1/2oz cheese, tomato sauce (rather than the dressing and salad), Vegetables = Mexican Tortilla Meal (then you'd still have to have the whole milk)
Beef + Pasta + Cheese + Whole Milk = Lasagne (+ vegetables on the side)

I'm sorry I can't come up with much.

When my daughter went as inpatient in an adolescent centre in the UK, the one dinner she did eat there before being kicked out for being unco-operative was:

Tuna Pasta Bake
Vegetables
Milk Dessert (which my daughter broke down at and started slamming her head against the floor according to the nurses)

This link might help?
http://www.kartiniclinic.com/blog/post/more-details-about-the-kartini-clinic-meal-plan-food-plan/

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trusttheprocessUSA
I can help. I've been using this meal plan for 19 months and have gotten really good at it.

First, I'm guessing your daughter did not receive treatment at Kartini? They give out a binder for parents that includes a nice section with good recipes. I maybe able to scan it a send it to you via email if you like. Let me know you can send me an email.

Since the meal plan is the basis of the meals you can really do anything your child likes. My son is allergic to tomatoes so I had to get a bit creative. He also likes meat with rice and veggie and salad - nothing fancy or really mixed together your daughter might be different. FYI My son is 14.5 growing and playing academy soccer so he has whole milk or whole milk yogurt at every meal.

OK for dinner we have in rotation:

1. homemade meatballs with 1 cup pasta, 2 TBS pesto (he cant eat tomatoes)1.5 cups veggie w/ butter, 1 cup green salad with 1 TBS Kartini dressing (3/4 cup pure olive oil 1/4 cup balsamic vinegar)and 1 cup whole milk

2. 6 oz shrimp scampi with 1TBS butter, 1 cup pasta,  1.5 cups veggie and 1 cup green salad with Kartini salad dressing and 1 cup whole milk

3. 4 oz steak on the grill, 1 cup rice, 1.5 cups veggie with 1 TBS butter and 1 cup green salad with Kartini salad dressing and 1 cup whole milk.

4. 4oz chicken or beef brisket buritto (you can reduce the meat to 3oz and add 1/2 beans) with 2 TBS sour cream, 1 burrito, 1 oz cheese on top, 1.5 cups veggie, 1 cup green salad with Kartini salad dressing and whole milk.

5. Friday is always take out Chinese food!! 4 oz beef, 1.5 cup broccoli, 1 cup rice with butter, 1 cup green salad with Kartini salad dressing and whole milk.

6. Pulled pork bar-b-que 4 oz, 1 bun 1.5 cup veggie with 1 TBS butter, 1 cup green salad with Kartini salad dressing and whole milk.

7. Home made pizza (dough from Trader Joe's) divide dough into 4 pizzas. top with tomato sauce, 3 ox mozzarella and 4 oz meatballs/sausage, chicken.  1.5 cup veggie with 1TBS butter, 1 cups green salad with Kartini salad dressing and whole milk.

and more choices.... 

He has lobster on his birthday and special occasions.

I saw a friend make a Kartini dinner by mixing 3/4 cup tomato sauce mixed with 2 TBS sour cream, add your steamed veggies and 1 cup pasta and 4 oz grilled chicken serve with salad. Any spices you like Cajun, garlic and enjoy!

I'm glad your daughter is doing well on the meal plan. Let me know what else I can do.


Son diagnosed @ 12.5 yrs old with Severe RAN 2/11. Co-morbids - anxiety, Active restriction for 3 months. He stopped eating completely 2x. He needed immediate, aggressive treatment from a provider who specialized in eating disorders, adolescents and males. We got that at Kartini Clinic. WR since 5/11. 2017 getting ready to graduate slipping lost 8lbs. Fighting our way back.
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aensley
Thanks so much for the suggestions. We did not receive treatment at Kartini. I found the meal plan on the Internet and have been reading Give Food a Chance. I would love a copy of the recipies! The meal plan has really reduced anxiety and made family dinner so much easier and more productive.


Thanks SO much!

Alice
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trusttheprocessUSA
will do !
Son diagnosed @ 12.5 yrs old with Severe RAN 2/11. Co-morbids - anxiety, Active restriction for 3 months. He stopped eating completely 2x. He needed immediate, aggressive treatment from a provider who specialized in eating disorders, adolescents and males. We got that at Kartini Clinic. WR since 5/11. 2017 getting ready to graduate slipping lost 8lbs. Fighting our way back.
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marilyn
I would also be very happy to see the Kartini recipes, particularly those without meat (my D does eat fish, shellfish, dairy and eggs).
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perdido
Welcome to the forum. There is a high calorie thread that has tons of high calorie recipes. We did not do a meal plan, just magic plate. We refer rather quickly to get the weight on, the longer you draw it out the more agony for your child.
We kept our d out of the kitchen and it made things so much simpler. But there is no one right way to do this, you do whatever works!
Hugs and strength!
Slow and steady
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YogurtParfait_US
I don't use the Kartini meal plan, but when I looked at it, I thought "this is sort of how my family eats."

Any recipes should work--it accommodates any kind of cuisine. I think it is a flexible, balanced meal plan.

(Ah, yes, but we do eat dessert!!)

YP
"Hope is a wonderful thing ... but hope by itself is not enough. Hope is the reason to take action, to make a plan and then to change the plan when it isn’t working - over and over and over again if necessary." Hannah Joseph (Let's Feast Friday Reflection, "Just Keep Going," Friday, March 3rd, 2015)
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AnnieK_USA
Some of the following may be helpful for you, from the ATDT Hall of Fame:

A variation on the refeeding priority -- a discussion of the Kartini meal plan.  The link embedded in the thread has changed.  You can read about the Kartini meal plan here (Ordered Eating and the Kartini Food Plan) and here (More Details about the Kartini Clinic Meal Plan).

and

High calorie suggestions

In the ATDT Hall of Fame there are links to many excellent Around the Dinner Table threads and posts. 
Daughter age 28, restrictive anorexia (RAN) age 11-18, then alternating RAN with binge eating disorder and bulimia with laxatives, is in remission from EDs for 3 years after finally finding effective individual therapy. Treatment continues for comorbid disorders of anxiety, ADD and depression. "Perseverance, secret of all triumphs." Victor Hugo
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YogurtParfait_US
There's folks on the "A variation on the refeeding priority" thread that hate that Kartini's plan disallows desserts/sweets/fast food for a year. I do think it is important to remember that these foods aren't banned forever--it is a temporary restriction. Different strokes for different folks--as long as the food is getting in, and it is good, healthy food for the most part, that's the most important thing. In my view, delaying the introduction of "fun foods" or "hyperpalatables" or whatever one wants to call them, if helpful for some, isn't something to worry about. 

I was surprised reading Dr. O'Toole's post describing that the food histories of her patients that says a large number of her families (about half??? if I remember correctly???) report a lack of balanced diets and lack of family-prepared, eaten-with-family meals in her patient population.

YP
"Hope is a wonderful thing ... but hope by itself is not enough. Hope is the reason to take action, to make a plan and then to change the plan when it isn’t working - over and over and over again if necessary." Hannah Joseph (Let's Feast Friday Reflection, "Just Keep Going," Friday, March 3rd, 2015)
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YogurtParfait_US
I'm not TTP, but yep, Kartini allows for any kind of home-cooked meal ... For example, if a dinner is to have meat and veggies, there's no reason why they can't be mixed in a stir-fry (according to Give Food a Chance ...).

Also, (again according to Give Food a Chance) it is allowed to be flexible and adjust the plan to what-the-child-will-eat ... it isn't a rigid plan. Their recommendation is to start by feeding foods that are easier for the child--so it doesn't require that every person at the table be eating the exactly same meal, though that is certainly a good goal ...

Again, my daughter hasn't been a patient--I'm just a reader of the Kartini blog and Give Food a Chance ...

YP
"Hope is a wonderful thing ... but hope by itself is not enough. Hope is the reason to take action, to make a plan and then to change the plan when it isn’t working - over and over and over again if necessary." Hannah Joseph (Let's Feast Friday Reflection, "Just Keep Going," Friday, March 3rd, 2015)
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