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strawdog
Good Morning

So one thing we were struggling with recently is looking through recipe books and trying to work out how many calories there are in each recipe and then how much would be a 'normal' serving. I'm ok when serving the traditional potato or rice ie 3 tablespoons cooked rice or 3 egg shaped potatoes. But with the recipe below how do I work all this out?? It's giving me a headache and then I worry I'm going to under serve or give too much and then she struggles?

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scaredmom
I would add all the average calories together for the whole recipe and divide by the number of servings you make. The tomatoes don’t have many calories. 
All the calories of each item is searchable on the internet. 
Over time you will be a great math magician when it comes to calories.
i would add more of the coconut oil than they say ,to be honest. The only calories there are the ham and the potatoes and the oil and eggs.

XXX
Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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Ellesmum
Hi strawdog, do you know the Nutracheck app? It’s very useful and you can quickly see the calories for every ingredient (and then of course raise them with oil etc) as the recipe says it serves 4 simply add the calories and divide by four to get a good idea.  You will soon become very good at mentally assessing calories believe me.  Serving sizes in recipes tend to be on the small side so it’s easy enough to double quantity or make half again.  

Once you you know that there’s approximately say 500 calories in that dish you’ll be able to raise it to what you need or add side dishes to bulk it out.  You could also add in extra ingredients like cashew nuts or whatever might go with the dish 
Ellesmum
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mtkmbc4
I use this app because it does all the math for you.

https://www.verywellfit.com/recipe-nutrition-analyzer-4157076
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Frazzled
I second mtkmbc4 on the site above. I use the same one. Has been very useful. 
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scaredmom
Haha I am not tech savvy and never have used an app! An app would have been sooo useful!
XXX
Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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strawdog
Brilliant - that's all very useful 🙂 
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deenl
I use https://www.myfitnesspal.com/ Of course, it is focused on losing weight and keeps showing IN RED that if I feed these calories he will weigh X kgs in 5 weeks, to which I think 'Yes please!' (He never does weigh that because human metabolism is waaaayyy more complicated than a simple computer formula)

Warm wishes,

D
2015 12yo son restricting but no body image issues, no fat phobia; lost weight IP! Oct 2015 home, stable but no progress. Medical hosp to kick start recovery Feb 2016. Slowly and cautiously gaining weight at home and seeing signs of our real kid.

May 2017 Hovering around WR. Mood great, mostly. Building up hour by hour at school after 18 months at home. Summer 2017 Happy, first trip away in years, food variety, begin socialising. Sept 2017, back to school FT first time in 2 years. [thumb] 2018 growing so fast hard to keep pace with weight
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tina72
scaredmom wrote:
Haha I am not tech savvy and never have used an app! An app would have been sooo useful!
XXX


So do I, scaredmom, and to be honest I even stopped calculating and measuring as it was driving me crazy. At some point I started serving her same portion as Dad and that worked for weight gain 🙂.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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KLB
I use myfitnesspal. There's a recipe section where you can input the ingredients and select amount of servings and it will give you calories per serving. 
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Foodsupport_AUS
I used myfitnesspal too. I would take a recipe like the one above, which eyeballing looks pretty low per serve and would work out what to add so that the calories per serve was satisfactory. 
D diagnosed restrictive AN June 2010 age 13.5. Weight restored July 2012. Relapse and now clawing our way back. Treatment: multiple hospitalisations and individual and family therapy.
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HopeNZ
We have a different method of calculating how much our d needs to eat, strawdog.  Our T actually discourages the counting-calorie method (thankfully for me - having never done it before ED showed up I was daunted at the prospect!).  Her rationale is that ultimately the goal is to return everyone - our ED d especially - to normal healthy stress-free eating.  Also, counting calories can (if our ED kids get wind of it) feed into the OCD side of EDs.

So we look for high-fat, high-protein foods, get them in wherever we possibly can, as much as our d can manage, which is generally a similar portion to what my hubby eats, but much more of the energy-dense food than my hubby, and fewer veggies.  We use the scales to tell us if it's enough.  During refeeding, my d was weighed weekly, so the feedback was regular.  These days she's weighed every 3 to 4 weeks, and the feedback works just as well.

One benefit of doing it this way is that as my d has taken more control of her food choices, she can eyeball appropriate amounts.  Another is that it keeps the focus off the energy density of the food, and on eating for enjoyment.
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tina72
HopeNZ wrote:

So we look for high-fat, high-protein foods, get them in wherever we possibly can, as much as our d can manage, which is generally a similar portion to what my hubby eats, but much more of the energy-dense food than my hubby, and fewer veggies.  We use the scales to tell us if it's enough.  During refeeding, my d was weighed weekly, so the feedback was regular.  These days she's weighed every 3 to 4 weeks, and the feedback works just as well.

One benefit of doing it this way is that as my d has taken more control of her food choices, she can eyeball appropriate amounts.  Another is that it keeps the focus off the energy density of the food, and on eating for enjoyment.


This is what we do, too.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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