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nancy
Reply with quote  #26 

A new bottled product (refrigerated) in our store, "Hersheys vanilla cream milkshake"  (there are other flavors but this has most calories) has 640 c per 16 oz bottle. It is next to the milk in our store.  I think this will be convenient when I don't have time to make a shake, or to carry with us, or to mix with the shake (I did tonight) , or to serve as the mealtime drink instead of plain milk or juice.

Momof6
Reply with quote  #27 

Agree!  Those Hershey Shakes are easy.  The Vanilla is higher calorie.  They used to carry them at every store, but now I really have trouble finding them.

dm
Reply with quote  #28 

tiredmom, the Carnation Instant Breakfast has a recipe section with great smoothie ideas: http://www.carnationinstantbreakfast.com/Recipes/Recipe.aspx

Some of the recipes use the fat or sugar free Carnation Instant Breakfast packets but you could subsitute the other ones!

Regina
Reply with quote  #29 
Hi--new to list and thread.
Thanks for all the wonderful/helpful recipes and suggestions.
My daughter is not (quite) sick of shakes yet, but concocting something that has enough calories that doesn't either taste weird or get repetitive is still tough.

Anyway, I ran across this website tonight, and it might be of interest to others...this is a shake/supplement powder that claims to pack 600+ calories into 8 oz. and I'm giving it a shot...even though it is on the pricey side.
http://www.suplimednutrients.com/about.php

We should be getting the order in a week and be able to tell if it delivers on the claims within another week, so I'll post a review later. I apologize if anyone has already posted on this and I missed it in the thread...

Best wishes and good luck to all,
Regina

Susan
Reply with quote  #30 
Regina,

Thank you for sharing your "find".  This is just the kind of product I searched for early on, but didn't find.  It sounds wonderfully efficient, and hopefully, tasty.  Please do let us know how it turns out.  Good luck!

Mommy54
Reply with quote  #31 
my son has been gaining rapidly the past few weeks, mostly due to large amounts of nuts, chocolate, muffins, + milkshakes. my son has been experiencing major hunger periods where he will eat 1000s of calories at a time, and he has regained all his weight, but he hasnt stopped gaining! he is becoming obese, in the 88% for his age (14). pre-an, he was only 45%!!!!!! i love him, and he is becoming quite anxious about his "extra" weight. i dont want to put him on a diet so as not to trigger an. i dont know what to do. any advice? he is reaching an unhealthy weight again, just on the opposte side of the scale!
-mommy54
rmc
Reply with quote  #32 

This is not responsive to the previous post but since this topic is still active I would like to know how you convince your child to drink shakes and eat hight calorie foods.  Don't they read nutritional labels? Our daughter is absolutely adamantly opposed to shakes in particular.  We would have to hold her down and use a feeding tube. 

rmc

dooger
Reply with quote  #33 

This is a big topic - basically the essence of the Maudsley method - how do you get your anorexic child to eat what she needs? It doesn't matter what the food is - if it wasn't shakes, it would be something else she would be fearful of.

 

I would refer to one of the other threads that is pinned on top of this message board called "How do you get a stubborn anorexic to eat?". It has some classic scenarios and appropriate responses and really describes what some of us have had to go through to get our daughters to eat (even high calorie items). The other resource is Lock and LeGrange's Help your teen beat an eating disorder. It also contains valuable strategies and advice on this topic.

 

Good luck.

 

 

Susan
Reply with quote  #34 
Mommy54,

Maybe you could enlist the aid of your pediatrician and nutritionist (if you worked with one).  They could communicate to your son what a healthy meal plan would be for him now -- one that would keep him in a safe place.  As for your interactions with your son, does it make sense to approach it the same way you might have done when you were trying to get his weight up?  That is, you're going to help him maintain a healthy meal plan until he can manage it on his own?

INOH
Reply with quote  #35 

Does anyone know if this scenario is common? This is my daughter's fear also...(becoming obese after refeeding because she can't stop eating/will get used to eating these huge meals she must complete now)

 

Has anyone else heard of situations in which the kids can't cut down again because they' gotten used to big portions?

LB
Reply with quote  #36 

I think every anorexic is terrified of becoming obese and an overeater - but that isn't real recovery - it is substituting one eating disorder for another. As someone else suggested, once she has stabilised you can help her as you have done already  - lovingly and compassionately help her to eat 'normal' portions.

A
Reply with quote  #37 

Are you people crazy? I know you love your kids and all but really by sneaking around and adding tremendous amounts of high fat typically unhealthy things into there food is kind of cruel. I also notice that this type of behaviour can lead to obesity. Find a happy medium people

Jane
Reply with quote  #38 
A,
No, we are not crazy.  You make a common mistake when you assume that parents "sneak" calories into the diets of their ill children.  This is not the case.   It's simply a matter of meeting the health needs of the sufferer with the minimum amount of stress.  In our family we did this was by preparing nutrient dense foods and not disclosing the calorie content.   My daughter's anorexia was making her life miserable enough--she didn't need to be stressing over calorie counts during the  refeeding process.  In many ways this is similar to hospital treatment of anorexics--calorie deficits need to be corrected in order for health to be restored.

You ought to re-examine your thinking about what foods are "unhealthy".  All people need a balance of nutrition (including protein, fats and carbs) for health.  A temporary increase in calories to remedy a health problem is not likely to result in obesity.
nancy
Reply with quote  #39 

A bit off topic but interesting, I came across some articles about famine relief, and how mothers need to be aided in refeeding their malnourished children at home, b/c hospital care carries high risks of infections,  and b/c mothers leave the siblings abandoned while remaining at hospital. (Side note- some of these children apparently become "anorexic" or afraid to eat  b/c if the child "refuses to eat"  he/she is "anorexic" and must be placed in hospital).

In these articles they talk about various therapeutic foods. A brand new one called 'plumpy'nut' is a peanut butter paste that can be eaten straight from the foil packet up to 3 times a day or used to supplement other foods. It seems to have remarkable weight and health restoring properties, almost miraculous to the mothers who give it to their children,  and see changes within days.  (Maybe it seems misguided of me to draw any parallels at all between malnourished children of famine and anorexics-but parents of anorexics can be desperate too).

I have wondered if therapeutic foods for anorexia (besides ensure which seems to have aquired bad rep for tasting awful) are considered by dcotors treating anorexia,  or is there a market for their development, or would this be accomodating abnormal eating habits (but could not be more abnormal than tube feeding).   

 It is so hard to feed so many calories (has taken ALL DAY LONG  EVERY day for me and my d when we were actually maintaining a total refeeding approach-so an isolating experience) when tons of food are so frightening for someone with an (and in our case I had to serve duplicate meals to my older d, whether she ate it all or not, to maintain the ritual that allowed my an d to eat).   We have tried different  powder mixes to add to shakes but they give a bad flavor...

A calorie dense and nutrition rich ( but seemingly small amount)  easy to eat away from home or between meals food could be so helpful, maybe during initial refeeding.  

 

At any rate refeeding is in limbo for us b/c my d decided to overcome her ritual upon turning 14,  and in the interim is still struggling hard not to comapore,  and having a very hard time eating enough, since w/out the ritual eating is very unsafe,  or in her words "impossible" in ways I just cannot comprehend, like climbing straight up a brick wall.  So- now in another phase of our journey...

Lisa
Reply with quote  #40 

First, my personal favourite...

 

 Hot Chocolate {High Calorie}

4 oz Half & half cream
4 oz Whole milk
2 tb Chocolate syrup
Heat milk and cream. Stir in syrup and milk powder until smooth. Serve immediately.

 

ALSO... http://www.hdny.org/recipes.html

this is a great site for some high calories 'normal' foods, the following recipies are provided... Salmon Ala Blue, Baked Chilcken Salad, Hamburger Strogonoff, "Impossible" Quiche, Veal Marsala, Noodles Alfredo, Apple Kuchen, Bread Pudding, Cheescake, Cheery Cheese Tarts, Impossible Pie, Oatmeal Brown Bread, Pumpkin Chocolate Chip Bread, "Almond Joy" Shake, Pina Colada Chicken.

 

And I just googled high calorie recipes (i didnt even know you could do that!) and came up with some extremely good sites... There are some great drinks, if you want to move away from the smoothies.

 

http://www.mealsforyou.com/cgi-bin/recipeCategory?category.calories+orderBy.calories+dir.DESC+loHi.high

 

http://www.dieteticsatwork.com/client_education/sample_high_calorie_high_protein_recipe_final.pdf

 

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/MBC/content/MBC_6_1_Recipes.asp

 

http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/UVAHealth/hub_cancer/reciphic.cfm

 

http://www.nnuh.nhs.uk/docs%5Cleaflets%5C172.pdf

 

 

rob
Reply with quote  #41 
My wife makes a tremendous 1000+ calorie oatmeal for breakfast.  Here is the recipe:
INGREDIENT                            CALORIES
1/2 cup oatmeal                            150
1/2 cup heavy whipping cream      400
1/3 cup water (to make it less thick)
1/4 cup raisens                              130
COOK THIS  2-3 minutes in microwave
Add:
1/4 cup sunflower seeds or nuts     200
1/2 banana                                     50
1 scoop protein powder                 100

Our AN daughter prefers this for breakfast.

ripley
Reply with quote  #42 

I'm cutting and pasting the following information from a diet article about 'foods that fool' people into thinking they're low-calorie and low-fat. I hope the author won't mind it being used by parents re-feeding their kids back to health! We didn't count calories during that phase, but many of these foods were on my d's menu:

"Granola -- Most brands are loaded with calories and sugar. In fact, granola is one of the most calorie dense cereals on the market. A typical ¨ø cup serving has 220 calories and 17 grams of sugar - that's more than 4 teaspoons of sugar. What's more, most people pour 2-cup portions - that's a whopping 660 calories and 51 grams sugar (12 teaspoons -- yikes!).

2% Reduced-Fat Milk -- 2% reduced-fat milk is not that low-fat/low-calorie when you consider that whole milk is 3.3% fat.

Breakdown for 1 cup milk:
- Whole milk: 150 calories
- 2% reduced fat milk: 120 calories
- 1% reduced fat milk: 100 calories
- Skim milk: 80 calories

Chicken Caesar Salads -- It's a salad, right? What could be unhealthy?  Thanks to excessive dressing, croutons, and cheese, a standard chicken Caesar salad can total 1,130 calories and add more than 90 grams of fat to your diet!

Dried Fruit -- All fruit is packed with nutrition; however, dried fruit is significantly higher in calories than fresh fruit when you calculate comparable amounts. That's because you're taking out all the moisture leaving a small piece of concentrated sugar (albeit "natural" sugar).
 
Consider this:
- 12 small pieces of dried mango = 320 calories
- 2 red apples + 15 grapes + ¨ö small cantaloupe = 320 calories

Yogurt Covered Nuts -- This yogurt snack is strictly food for the soul! It's filled with calories, sugar, fat... and clearly NO active cultures. In fact, 20 yogurt covered nuts = 460 calories, 32 grams fat, 14 grams saturated fat, and 8 teaspoons sugar.

Banana Chips -- Bananas fried in oil and sugar - over the top! Consider that 1 cup typically provides 300 calories, 20 grams fat, 18 grams saturated fat (that's the artery clogging type), and 19 grams sugar (4.75 teaspoons).

Trail Mix -- Although packed with healthy nutrients and fiber, traditional trail mix is also loaded with calories that add up quickly. In fact, ¨ö cup typically equals 350 calories (that's the same number of calories as 11 cups of air-popped popcorn).

Fruit Smoothies -- It's true, fruit smoothies can provide a lot of nutrition, but they pack in the calories as well. One 24-ounce smoothie provides about 450 calories. That's the same amount of calories in 10-12 doughnut holes! "

Shawn
Reply with quote  #43 
Hi,

Reviving a thread...is L still around? Or anybody else who can give me a good recipe for homemade pizza crust? L's husband used cream in his recipe...Also, L had a recipe for tortillas and refried beans...

I'm desperately trying to pack in calories. My AN daughter refuses shakes, smoothies,and muffins...so I was perusing this old thread for other recipes that might not get her hackles up...I have five pages of notes from this thread..But can always use more!

Thank you,
Shawn
megan
Reply with quote  #44 
hi.
I dont really have that many new ideas, but I'll share what has been helping my D.
1. Bagels and peanut butter & banana. can be up to 700 or more calories (depending on bagel size/type and how much PB you put on)
2. Full fat yogurt. it's not as scary as ice cream, but has PLENTY of calories. make a healthy high calorie 'parfait' with 12 oz full fat yogurt, 1/2 cup granola and some cut up fruit. It's delicious and high in calories.
3. Starbucks. It's always a treat and the drinks can be VERY high calorie. we havent worked ourselves up to having the pastries yet, but a Venti Vanilla Creme with whole milk and whipped cream is 520 calories and 60% of the daily calcium needs!
4. trail mix is very high calorie, and very nutritious. 1/4 cup can be around 160 and its not very bulky so they can eat a lot.
thats all for now. i hope this helps!
lwm
Reply with quote  #45 
Bagles from somewhere like Einstein's or Bruegger's can be around 300 calories apiece. We put 4 or 5 tablespoons of almond butter on a toasted bagel for our d's lunch, bringing it to 600 or 700 calories.

I make homemade pizza crust with a great recipe:

Put 1 T active yeast into 1-1/2 cups of warm water and 1 T sugar. Let rise for 5 minutes (to make sure yeast is alive).

Mix 2 C white flour, 1-1/4 C whole wheat flour, 1/4 C olive oil, and a little salt in a bowl. Add the yeast mixture. Knead about 5 minutes. Coat with olive oil, put in a big bowl and cover bowl with plastic wrap (very important). Let rise in a warm place for 1-2 hours. Divide into 2 or 3 parts, roll out, top with sauce and cheese and other good stuff, and bake at 450 until done, about 10 minutes.

Enjoy.

--lwm
Shawn
Reply with quote  #46 
LWM--thanks for the pizza crust recipe. DO you think I could substitute milk for the water?
Shawn
lwm
Reply with quote  #47 
hi shawn,

i've never made it with milk, but why not? good idea!

--lwm
Shawn
Reply with quote  #48 
LWM,

Any idea how many calories a slice of your pizza would be? What else did you give your daughter for dinner that night? How many slices did you insist she eat?
shawn
lwm
Reply with quote  #49 
I'm not sure about calories, but that recipe makes 2 pizzas about equal sizes, and i used to feed her half of one of them. plus bread with butter. plus milk. plus salad with dressing. and dessert.

because my d had trouble with tomatoes (very acidic) i put pat olive oil over the dough, arrange cooked shrimp and olives (too of her favorite foods before an), and then cover it all with a lot of mozzarella and parmesan.

good luck--

lwm
Tryingmom
Reply with quote  #50 
Hi,
For figuring out calories, try nutritiondata.com. You can enter the quantities of the ingredients, number of servings, and it gives you calories per serving.

Tryingmom
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