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O2relax
hello wonderful carers. My AN daughter diagnosed may 2018. She is 5.3ft and hovers around 54 kg with our fbt efforts. Period returned late 2018. She is 16.5 years. Probably orthorexic restricting from late 2017 with high pressure sport (now banned by us). 

At lowest was 48 kg (prior to admission to Ip).She has some curves which I am glad to see with weight gain but not much in the bra dept. (at her age I was a d cup, she is an a)She has a tiny frame, even her hands and feet are small-much smaller than mine. we have thyroid issues in our family but due to family issues I am not in the position to ask.
Does anyone know of any links with AN and thyroid issues.
Would it be worth raising with gp? I am worried focus on AN (and I appreciate it is life threatening and the priority) May be masking some other medical issues/growth. 
Your thoughts and info much appreciated.
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ValentinaGermania
It might be no fault to exclude thyroid issues if you have that in the family, but a lot of AN patients have delayed growth because of the malnutrition and do a growth spurt after good WR (my d even grew 1,5 cm at age 18 after not growing for 4 years before).
RE bra size, that is same here, too, breasts are developed from fat mass and if there is non there is only size A. If she wants more she needs to eat more.
The time frame for breast size seems to be quite short, my d delayed that at 17-18 and is now not developing any breast size any more (and is now sad about that). AN takes its toll.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Enn
Hi O2relax,
I am not sure what your question is? 
Are you asking if there can be thyroid issues with AN- then yes. But when they recover that gets better unless the were predestined to have thyroid issues.
Or are you asking about growth and final height?
When within yourself you find the road, the right road will open.  (Dejan Stojanovic)

Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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O2relax
Thx tina72 &scaredmom

i fear, as tina72 suggests that she has stunted her growth. The question was about growth and yes it is my D who is concerned about bra size. Perhaps when we ask the gp she will get tina72s answer, just eat more!!! I know that is the answer! Wish it was simple!
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ValentinaGermania
Breast size changes but normally not from Cup A to D.
It might help in many ways to have a talk with your GP BEFORE that appointment alone and tell him how helpful it would be if he could say some sentences about breasts developed from fat mass and that eating more fats can help to get bigger bra size.
But it is quite possible that she will not believe it in that state. Mine did not.

I only know recovered AN patients which were quite young when they got ill and refed at an age before 16 that have "normal" breast size. The patients I know that recovered as older teenagers/young adults like my d all have size A/B (the female patients at least 🙂). But that is only my experience here.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Enn
Breast size is genetic and hormonal. I don’t think it is as simple as gaining weight tbh.
there are so many factors at play. We can induce breasts in men with hormones and they don’t have to gain a lot of weight. 
every decade in a woman’s life with be wrought with different physical and environmental factors that can affect breast tissue and there are other components that affect shape and size not just fat. We know hormones in meat have affected girls so that they get their periods earlier and breast development earlier. I think time will tell and no one has a crystal ball magic answer. 
When within yourself you find the road, the right road will open.  (Dejan Stojanovic)

Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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debra18
At age 11 before becoming Ill my daughter was quite developed even though she was always thin. When she became sick she lost everything and it still has not grown back even at a healthy weight .
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ValentinaGermania
"By substantially delaying puberty and permanently interfering with height and breast development, anorexia at this young age has an even more detrimental effect on health and development than does anorexia in adolescents. One reason that children are thought to be at an increased medical risk from anorexia is that they naturally have smaller fat stores than do adolescents and so lose vital tissues more quickly with weight loss."
https://www.edcatalogue.com/medical-symptoms-and-complications-associated-with-anorexia/

https://obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1471-0528.2000.tb13329.x

If her mum has a size D then it is not very probably that her d has a genetic size A. That is AN in my eyes. My d had bops before she got sick, same size then me. Like Debra18s d mine lost them due to AN.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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ValentinaGermania
I found an old thread here about some that had a "second puberty" after WR.
https://www.aroundthedinnertable.org/post/second-puberty-6559558
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Enn

There is no way to predict breast size over time unfortunately, ED or no ED.
Weight gain may or may not be the answer. It is more complicated than just gaining weight. 

Please remember that the opinions here are just that, opinions. every person and situation is their own.
Height is hard to predict at the best of times and it may depend on whether ED came prepuberty or at or after puberty.It may have to do with when Ed started pre or post pubertal.
There is no consensus I have found about the height issues and what is posted on the forum can be anecdotal. Height is very hard to predict even with non ED kids. 

When within yourself you find the road, the right road will open.  (Dejan Stojanovic)

Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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