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Hesic1092
Hi, We just finished our first week of FBT and I was disappointed that my 14 year old D did not gain weight.  I thought I was feeding her lots (at least compared to what she was eating before), but obviously not enough.  Any ideas for high calorie meals, snacks?  I've started giving her nuts with her snacks.  She has never been a milk drinker, but giving her juice with every meal now.  She is always complaining about being so full (I know that is the ED talking), but would love ideas for high calorie, lower volume options.  This forum has been so helpful so far, I know there are lots of resources I can find that will help with this question, but I'd love to hear what you as parents found worked well for you.   Planning, shopping and preparing all the food feels quite 'weighty" (pardon the pun) to me right now, so I'd love to find a couple of "go to" high calorie,  snack/meal ideas.  Thanks in advance for your help 🙂
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pheim
Hi Hesic1092, I've been wondering the same thing; my D is currently in residential treatment, but when she comes home I'll need to have an arsenal of food ideas (esp. snacks). In the books I've read people mentioned adding butter and cream to many things, which adds caloric density as opposed to volume alone. I'm thinking milkshakes and egg bakes with heavy cream and cheese for a start!
"What's comin' will come and we'll meet it when it does."
-Hagrid
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tina72
Hi to both,
it is normal to see no or little weight gain in the first weeks and to be honest to see no additional weight loss is a progress!
The kids need in most cases much more food to gain constantly than they ever ate before. My d is 2 years into recovery now and still eating same amount as my husband just to maintain her weight (she is grown out).
So first aid:
add cream, oil and butter to EVERYTHING possible. Add sugar to juice if needed. Oil to applesauce. Butter both sides of the sandwich. Add cream or better double cream to yoghurt, porridge, milkshakes. Add butter and cream to mashed potatoes, to soups, sauces, whatever. Be creative!
Buy all food items in highest calory version that is available in your supermarket. Just to change all brands can get you 300 extra a day.
Cook fresh food and bake yourself. Muffins can take a large amount of calories on a small footprint. Use the search button to find receipes here.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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scaredmom

Hi there to both of you!
Here is a nice thread for some ideas:

https://www.aroundthedinnertable.org/post/high-calorie-suggestions-696425?highlight=high+calorie&pid=1305071625


Also YES to adding in extra butter and cheese. I had to add cream to d's milk to get higher cal and lower "foodprint" ie less volume to gain the weight.
I still add in olive oil, lots to d's sauces.
heavy whipping cream to yogurts and I change up recipes to add in more sugars, oils, butter, cream etc..
I use cream in pancakes, waffles, French toast
Where you use milk, try cream,
Every little bit helps.
As for no weight gain, I have learned to go back to first principles to ensure your child is not dumping food, or exercising it away, or purging etc...
Then so long as that is OK, increase, increase calories.

If you tell us your menus, we can help you to increase the calories in that.
All the best,
XXX

When within yourself you find the road, the right road will open.  (Dejan Stojanovic)

Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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tina72
Yes, tell us what they are eating at the moment and we can give you ideas for "special effects" 🙂
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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debra18
My daughter drinks two high calorie shakes a day .when she started doing that is when she gained consistently. In the morning ice cream and heavy cream. I used to put chopped nuts, syrup and chocolate in it too but she doesn't need that now. In the evening fruit, juice, custard syrup and chopped nuts.
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pheim
That's helpful, thank you! I'm looking forward to cooking again and spending more time in the kitchen, as it's something I've lost sight of. I used to enjoy planning meals and cooking for my family, but I think D's ED affected me in ways I didn't see at the time, but my eyes are opening; somewhere along the line I stopped cooking much (she was Vegan and made her own meals/snacks which made ED super happy) and I came to think of food/eating as a nuisance and often skipped dinner myself or just ate toast w/ peanut butter or Ramen.
Adding all of those ingredients to my future shopping list now!
"What's comin' will come and we'll meet it when it does."
-Hagrid
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tina72
After 2 weeks I knew which were the highest caloric products in my local supermarket 🙂.

Keep her out of the kitchen when you cook and bake and freeze portions of everything. I always cook double size and freeze half of it cause there will be a time when you are relieved not to need to cook and sometimes you need food for replacing thrown food. Cook/bake in the nights if needed...

Milkshakes and smoothies (with tons of rapeseed oil in) were my best friend too. At the start it is often much easier to make them drink the calories than eat them.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Mcmum
Hello, after 10 months at this I feel like a pro at high calorie food! So much so that I have put on a stone myself!  (Happily )
We go for :
Breakfast : smoothie with Haagan Daaz , cream and honey , granola with full fat milk and a bagel with lots of butter. 
Mid morning snack at school is toast and butter. 
Lunch is juice, a sandwich with meat and mayo, dried fruit, a chocolate bar and a cheese string.  (Not always finished but finishes when he gets home )
Afternoon snack is cheese and crackers.
After school, a chocolate bar.
Dinner is rice or pasta or casserole so that I can hide lots of oil/cheese /meat (fatty)
Dessert is ice cream and fruit 
Supper is cookies and full fat milk
This didn't happen overnight and followed a year of restricting plus a summer of hell but this is the amount our 10 year old needs at the moment to stay healthy.  

Like Tina I know all the highest calorie products in the shops. Fat is your new best friend.  You have got this !! 
Best of luck to you.  Keep asking for whatever advice you need.  It's not a linear journey.  I feel like my whole life is devoted to food but if you can get it in, it is the answer xx
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Mamaroo
It's great that she's drinking juice as it doesn't make one feel full and actually increases appetite. Nuts are also great.Keep on doing that! Like the others have said look for the higher calorie version of everything. During refeeding I didn't give her salads, vegetables (except potatoes and other root vegetables) or fruit (except dried fruit such as figs, dates, apricots and raisins) as they had too few calories. You can make rice and replace some of the water with coconut cream, it also tastes delicious. If you want to get her to drink milk, add strawberry flavour or milo to cold milk.
D became obsessed with exercise at age 9 and started eating 'healthy' at age 9.5. Restricting couple of months later. IP for 2 weeks at age 10. Slowly refed for months on Ensures alone, followed by swap over with food at a snails pace. WR after a year at age 11 in March 2017. View my recipes on my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKLW6A6sDO3ZDq8npNm8_ww
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Mamaroo
I just remembered I bought protein bars in bulk, you won't believe how much calories can hide in such a little bar 😁
D became obsessed with exercise at age 9 and started eating 'healthy' at age 9.5. Restricting couple of months later. IP for 2 weeks at age 10. Slowly refed for months on Ensures alone, followed by swap over with food at a snails pace. WR after a year at age 11 in March 2017. View my recipes on my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKLW6A6sDO3ZDq8npNm8_ww
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Hesic1092

Thanks everyone for your comments, inspiration and suggestions.  I really appreciate it and taking away some great things to try!  Here is what I'm feeding her today:

Breakfast - 2 pieces of toast spread with butter and then spread with 1/2 avocado, eached topped with an egg fried in butter, one piece of bacon and glass of OJ
Snack - oatcake topped with almond butter, juice
Lunch - tuna wrap (made with mayo and cheese), dried mangos, 1/4 cup nuts, smoothie juice
Snack - muffin (grocery bought, 350 calories) with glass of juice
Supper - taco bowls (rice, taco hamburger meat, cheese, sour cream and some peppers), dessert - hagen-daz icecream plus cookie
Snack -   yogurt parfait (9% greek yogurt, blueberries and granola).  

I've definitely stepped it up abit since last week, so hopeful this might bring on a weight gain this week.  but any feedback or suggestions on this is much appreciated.

Thanks again for your help

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tina72
My ideas to top that:

Breakfast: Do you cut the avocado into slices or do you mash it? If you mash it you can get some cream in there (or better double cream if available). Can you add a glass full fat milk instead of the juice or in addition? You serve juice 3 times (breakfast and 2x snack) but no milk - calcium is important for the bones - if she does not drink milk what about a yoghurt drink?
Snack: Is that oatcake homemade? If yes, you can get some cream and grated almonds in there.
Lunch: no idea
Snack: Bake muffins yourself. You can make them slightly bigger and there is a recipe here (use search button) to get 1000 calories per serving.
Supper: what drink is served? serve a caloric drink with every meal
Snack: you can add canola oil or cream/double cream to the yoghurt

Try to increase portion sizes and "special addings" slow but steadily. You will need a lot of food to see constant weight gain.
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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tina72
Just tried and cannot find the muffin recipe with the search button.
Can anyone here help please? Was it your recipe, Mamaroo? Or Lauras?
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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scaredmom
The muffin recipe is in the high calorie thread.
XXX
When within yourself you find the road, the right road will open.  (Dejan Stojanovic)

Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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tina72
Can you help with a link, scaredmom? Here the search function seems to be not working today...😕
I get only my own posts as reply...strange...
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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scaredmom
I posted  that thread on this thread a day ago. Just look back .
It is on the first page of the high calorie thread.
XXX
When within yourself you find the road, the right road will open.  (Dejan Stojanovic)

Food+more food+time+love+good professional help+ATDT+no exercise+ state not just weight+/- the "right" medicine= healing---> recovery(--->life without ED)
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tina72
Thanks. I did not see that you posted it yesterday.
Here is the recipe (copy):

"Ingredients:

1 stick butter (8 tablespoons)
1.5 cups sugar
2 eggs
2 cups flour
1 teaspoon salt
half teaspoon baking soda
1 cup mashed banana (I use 2 bananas)
half teaspoon vanilla
half cup sour cream
plenty of chopped walnuts or pecans (I don't measure these, but probably put in at least 2 cups)

Mix together the butter and sugar, then the eggs. Mix together the dry ingredients first, then add to the butter/sugar/egg mixture. Next add the banana, sour cream, and vanilla. Last add the nuts.

I put all of this mixture into a non-stick pan that has 4 LARGE muffin tins. That is key. Just make a huge muffin look like the normal size...none of this small cupcake sized muffin business!!! Each of these muffins should have about 1000 or more calories."
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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