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YogurtParfait_US
Hi all,

My daughter Olivia was one of the littlies with ED years ago. Got her refed, and kept her fed, and she's done very well. She did have a blip in later elementary school and another in middle school. And, here we are again, at age 16.

A sudden onset blip. Not wanting to eat. Wanting to diet, etc. Seems to have forgotten overnight how normally she was eating the previous week. It's like she stepped on a mine.

Anyway, I know what to do. Back to supervised eating. 

Anyway, hopefully this blip soon will pass. 

Sending love to everyone!!
YP
"Hope is a wonderful thing ... but hope by itself is not enough. Hope is the reason to take action, to make a plan and then to change the plan when it isn’t working - over and over and over again if necessary." Hannah Joseph (Let's Feast Friday Reflection, "Just Keep Going," Friday, March 3rd, 2015)
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LaraB

Hi @YogurtParfait_US
i recognise your name from reading through old threads. I am sorry that Olivia is having a blip. This is such a strange illness! 

Sending you a hug. Xx



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LaraB

Have you seen the gene studies that came out last year about anorexia? I found the reflections of Cynthia Bulik really helpful talking about anorexia being a metabolic illness and the risks of negative energy balance acting as a trigger. 

There is a great blog here- with earlier blogs in the series describing the study and results. Xxxx

https://uncexchanges.org/2019/07/15/personal-reflections-and-what-the-angi-results-mean-for-patients-families-and-clinicians-today-part-4/

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Foodsupport_AUS
Welcome back, though I sorry you have had to come back because of a blip. I trust you will get on top of things quickly, but feel free to ask questions if things are not going to plan. 
D diagnosed restrictive AN June 2010 age 13. Initially weight restored 2012. Relapse and continuously edging towards recovery. Treatment: multiple hospitalisations and individual and family therapy.
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greekdude
LaraB wrote:

Have you seen the gene studies that came out last year about anorexia? I found the reflections of Cynthia Bulik really helpful talking about anorexia being a metabolic illness and the risks of negative energy balance acting as a trigger. 

There is a great blog here- with earlier blogs in the series describing the study and results. Xxxx

https://uncexchanges.org/2019/07/15/personal-reflections-and-what-the-angi-results-mean-for-patients-families-and-clinicians-today-part-4/



thank you for posting this! I have read lots of Bulik's works but this one seems to converge the new findings with the classic psychiatric recommendation against stress and anxiousness!!
There is smth I dont quite get (as a non-english speaker) : genetic buffering and environmental buffering. What does this term mean in this context?

At the OP mom @YogurtParfait_US , all our wishes to your D!
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LaraB
@greekdude glad you found article useful. In this context it means protective factors. Ie as well as genetic risk factors, there will be other aspects of your genetic makeup that protect or mitigate against the risk. Same with the environment. 
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Kali
Hi Yogurtparfait,

Sorry to hear your daughter is having a blip. You know what to do and are an experienced pro at this. Hopefully she will turn the corner under your expert hands. We have had some blips also. When it happened to my d. it seemed to me that stress and anxiety played a big part in the blips and this is certainly a crazy time. Transitions also seemed to bring on blips.

warmly,

Kali
Food=Love
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melstevUK
Hi Yogurt parfait,

Welcome back! It feels like a blast from the past! 
Sorry you are having a blip but glad that Olivia has been doing well. 
My own take on this is that she is likely to be having another growth spurt and may need extra nutrition again while you get her through it. So you are back in that 'negative energy' state again. Hopefully you will get back on track again pretty quickly. 
It would be interesting to know how much of the illness she remembers from when she was little. I don't know much you have spoken to her about her genetic risk but maybe now is the time to educate seriously about what it is all about. 
And hopefully there will be cooperation and no serious rebellion. 
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt.
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YogurtParfait_US
Thanks for this, everyone! I do think she probably started dieting a smidge, and then heavy anxiety hit. No growth spurt. She had an early growth plateu and has stayed her solid 5'2" for the last three years.

Finding some leverage, and that is good. In feeding, a little shift from resistance to, her asking me if she's eating enough. 

And, I've gotta say, that the day I noticed it starting, she actually told me. Years ago she learned that I'm a tool in her anti-anxiety toolbox. Amazing, but true. The push-pull of AN is interesting. I'm the enemy, but then the victim realizes that there is a greater enemy, even while keeping her ear tuned to the lies of AN. I also feel bad for her also at the stomach pain involved. AN clamps down and makes it hard to eat. "I'm full." "My stomach hurts." I think she's telling the truth.

My answer is to eat through it, because each bite is an "F*** you" to AN (pardon my language)!

Relying on favorites... banana-kiwi shakes... breakfast burritos... BBQ potato chips as a snack... 

You all are awesome! <3 
"Hope is a wonderful thing ... but hope by itself is not enough. Hope is the reason to take action, to make a plan and then to change the plan when it isn’t working - over and over and over again if necessary." Hannah Joseph (Let's Feast Friday Reflection, "Just Keep Going," Friday, March 3rd, 2015)
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PurpleRain
YP, si sorry Olivia is going through a blip. I  have been around for a yearryear and a bit and I have read most of your threads, I almost feel I know you guys. they have been tremendously helpful, not only with my ED kid but with my younger non ED kid who has some anxiety issues, I use many of your tips. I hope this passes quickly. I know you know what your doing and you do it so well! Olivia is so lucky to have you in her tool-box!
13 yo d started to eat "healthy" September 2018, she had a growth spurt a bit later, followed by tummy bug. She started restricting breakfast and school lunch in January 2019 (that we know). We succesfully refed at home.
I have found inner strenght, patience and compassion that I did not know I had.
Never retreat, never surrender
keep feeding
 
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hbeatsaUSA
YP ------ I mostly lurk here now, but saw your username and knew I had to comment! I can't believe that Olivia is 16 now! Are you sure? Hehe. I think my d was 16 when I joined here!
ED with a teenager is different than ED with a little one, as you know. The self-advocacy is so good to see. As time has gone by, my d has admitted that much of staying in recovery is learning how to fight back against the blips herself. It sounds like Olivia is learning to do that as well. Keep on keeping on. 
D- 21 w long history of RAN (that seems to be in remission, thankfully)
Me- Stephanie
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Torie
YP!!!  I have been wondering how you and Olivia and your son are doing ... sorry you are again called upon to drag Olivia back to safety.  No rest for the weary.  Sorry I didn't write sooner - I have been dealing with my own (non-ED) challenges so I haven't been here.

I know you will emerge victories in this current round - sorry you have to.  Take care.
Hugs,
-Torie
"We are angels of hope, of healing, and of light. Darkness flees from us." -YP 
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deenl
Hi YogurtParfait,

I hope things are progressing well with Olivia. I am sure you are well positioned to ensure this is just a blip.

Warm wishes,

D
2015 12yo son restricting but no body image issues, no fat phobia; lost weight IP! Oct 2015 home, stable but no progress. Medical hosp to kick start recovery Feb 2016. Slowly and cautiously gaining weight at home and seeing signs of our real kid.

May 2017 Hovering around WR. Mood great, mostly. Building up hour by hour at school after 18 months at home. Summer 2017 Happy, first trip away in years, food variety, begin socialising. Sept 2017, back to school FT first time in 2 years. [thumb] 2018 growing so fast hard to keep pace with weight
  • Swedish proverb: Love me when I least deserve it because that's when I need it most.
  • We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence Recovery, then, is not an act but a habit. Aristotle.
  • If the plan doesn't work, change the plan but never the goal.
  • We cannot control the wind but we can direct the sail.
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