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MKR
Hello to all,

Has anyone had - or do you know of anyone with - experience in "bigorexia"?  

Last year's terrible AN has now morphed into a very heavy muscular body. Our daughter is well past WR, 12kg over. Not quite restricting but adding protein, protein and more protein. Becomes fidgety if "not enough" protein in a meal.

Exercise is not continuous, in fact seeing my daughter lying on the couch with a book after our annis horribilis was a Golden Moment for me. Says she hates running, planks and burpees, and all three were her staples last year. But pumps thigh muscles and glutes to emulate body builders on Instagram (how I wish Instagram never existed...).

According to some doctors, this is quite common. 

I just don't know how to move her away from body thoughts...

Any insight would be most welcome!

Zylie 
Mum's Kitchen

14-y-o "healthy living" led to AN in 2017 and WR at 16. Current muscle dysmorphia.
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Foodsupport_AUS
"Bigorexia" is more common in boys than girls but it and its cousin " Orthorexia" seem to be pretty common follow ups to AN, or instead of. Although the desire for extreme thinness may be gone there is still a marked focus on food, types of food and an associated body outcome they are aiming for. 

Excess protein does have risks this article outlines them relatively nicely. https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-and-weight-loss/when-it-comes-to-protein-how-much-is-too-much

A number of parents have had boys with this, KLB and more recently Mika has been posting about her son. 
D diagnosed restrictive AN June 2010 age 13. Initially weight restored 2012. Relapse and continuously edging towards recovery. Treatment: multiple hospitalisations and individual and family therapy.
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MKR
Thank you @Foodsupport_AUS. I will have a look at their posts.

Our ED therapist admittedly didn't have any answers. We'd like to think we are "safe" because of such weight gain and D's periods returning BUT something is not quite right. 

Another fear is that she might want to go further (into the world of steroids, perish the thought!) as long as the food thoughts are swirling in her head.

I am a bit relieved now, I didn't know where to start 😀.

Many thanks, 

Zylie 

 
Mum's Kitchen

14-y-o "healthy living" led to AN in 2017 and WR at 16. Current muscle dysmorphia.
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greekdude
Instagram is such a dangerous place for our kids. What to say here, just keep one eye open to your D. Eventually they will grow up and start looking after themselves.
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ValentinaGermania
You are totally correct. Most ED kids here "learned" a lot in the internet. It is a really dangerous place. We all need to have an eye on what our kids are doing there. Mine did a competition who has the worst BMI and has not eaten for most hours...
Keep feeding. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
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MKR
Thank you @greekdude,

I have caught her many times "doing homework" and the screen would show a gym somewhere with people doing weightlifting. She gets abusive when I interrupt (ED being challenged?).

In the worst days of AN, she was trying to keep pace with an exercise video, which happened to be fast-forwarded. The vlogger to dread is the Australian Kayla Itsines and her Bikini Body.  I actually wrote to her website and they rejected any responsibility for their followers, they were not aimed at minors. ???

Once I saw D had made an appointment over Instagram to visit a gym outside our suburb, because she has been banned from all the nearby gyms.  She told a lie about going shopping with a friend (never lied pre-ED!).  I said, "I give you 5 minutes to tell the truth". So she owned up and we went there together.  I had a short meeting with the lady owner first, who burst into tears after hearing about the ED. Turns out she caught our D many times doing extra workouts or using bigger weights. Now she knew why. We finished that session but D has been asked by the gym to wait until she got the all-clear from her doctor. Might never happen, but hey I am not the bad cop.

Yes, we will keep plugging the loopholes. My "superpower" is the wi-fi switch ðŸ˜‰, but only at home...
Mum's Kitchen

14-y-o "healthy living" led to AN in 2017 and WR at 16. Current muscle dysmorphia.
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MKR
Oh @ValentinaGermania that is terrible...

Even the "innocent" 40-hour Famine Fundraisers can be dangerous - we opt for 40-hour away from smartphone for our children, and that counts as a famine.
But I can imagine children thinking of starvation as something cool.

I just read about the WeightWatchers new app for kids (??) with a traffic light for different foods:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/17/weight-watchers-new-childrens-app-kurbo-faces-backlash.html

I think I should write to our MP.
Mum's Kitchen

14-y-o "healthy living" led to AN in 2017 and WR at 16. Current muscle dysmorphia.
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greekdude
You are totally correct. Most ED kids here "learned" a lot in the internet. It is a really dangerous place. We all need to have an eye on what our kids are doing there. Mine did a competition who has the worst BMI and has not eaten for most hours...


what a crime for those networks to leave such ideas flying around. I have come across a DNS service which (besides the usual inappropriate content) also blocks (supposedly) any anorexia related content. I will make a post if I make it work.
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MKR
Yes, please do!
Mum's Kitchen

14-y-o "healthy living" led to AN in 2017 and WR at 16. Current muscle dysmorphia.
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greekdude
Zylie wrote:

Yes, we will keep plugging the loopholes. My "superpower" is the wi-fi switch Ã°Å¸Ëœâ€°, but only at home...


I hope the best for your D! wifi has to go at 22:00 the latest. (ok so I wish)
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MKR
Just to say Thank You to @greekdude and your wife.  I found the correspondence very uplifting and a treat, expressing myself in my mother tongue.  Like I mentioned, my family are not much interested in the details of the ED, too embarrassed or something.  Well, at least they do not argue with me 😉.

Have a good night and enjoy the weekend with your boy!
Mum's Kitchen

14-y-o "healthy living" led to AN in 2017 and WR at 16. Current muscle dysmorphia.
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greekdude
fala!
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MKR
Have a great weekend!
Mum's Kitchen

14-y-o "healthy living" led to AN in 2017 and WR at 16. Current muscle dysmorphia.
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