| WorriedMom |
| | Oct 16, 2005 at 09:27 AM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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I'm wondering if anyone can offer me suggestions for high-calorie dinners, lunches, etc? I'm afraid we're running out of ideas, and bumping up against our 14-y-o d's pickiness.
She says she is sick to death of milkshakes and sweets and would like to get more of her dailiy calorie needs (she's eating about 3000 cal per day) from "real" food. I'm at a bit of a loss because she doesn't like (translates: won't eat) cream sauces and other high-cal savories, so we've come to rely heavily on either a big milkshake every day or a very large chocolate bar with almonds, etc.
I'd be grateful for any ideas--creative cooking was never my strong suit in the first place.
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| L |
| | Oct 16, 2005 at 10:33 AM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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Hi, Our d has difficulty with milkshakes and desserts, so we are experts in high calorie vegetarian savories. Here are my suggestions:
• chili made with lots of oil and then cornbread made with cream and butter.
• polenta, cheese, eggplant, tomato sauce casserole (layers of polenta made with cream, cheese, eggplant brushed with plenty of olive oil then baked semitender before put in the casserole, then a simple tomato sauce made with plenty of olive oil. several of these layers, then top with cheese of course
• homemade pizza with a crust that my h makes with cream, then oil on the crust before the tomato sauce and the cheese
• homemade tortillas again made with plenty of oil, then topped with refried beans that you can supplement with cream and cheese of course!
• soups like lentil that can include plenty of oil (and I mean plenty), with toasted cheese sandwiches (there are higher and lower calorie breads...we look for the higher calorie ones) • muffins (not savory, but probably could be!) have been our secret weapon. I have a banana muffin recipe that with butter and sour cream and enough nuts (and of course a generous size) has about 1100 calories. It was the way our d started each day for the first month! The way that we got between 3000 and 3500 calories per day into our d was to start with the 1200 calorie breakfast (muffin, glass of milk, fruit), then have 3 snacks (mid morning, mid afternoon, and before bed) and 2 more meals after that (she ate about every 2.5 hours while awake). Those snacks and meals would only have to be about 500 calories each (2500 total) and we would be up to 3700 calories a day! She craved water, but we always insisted that all of her liquids have some nutrition (milk or juice, with milk being especially good to make sure she got 1200 mg of calcium per day for her bones), so she probably gets at least 500 calories a day just in liquids. We did not introduce any variety into her breakfast diet for a month so that we could be assured of her high calorie breakfast, but now that she can slow down on weight gain, we serve all sorts of other things. I can honestly say that I have never cooked or done as many dishes in my entire life!!! We have tried to make her snacks as aesthetically pleasing as possible with lots of little dishes and a specially painted snack tray. I figure whatever it takes!!! Best wishes and happy cooking.... |
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| WorriedMom |
| | Oct 16, 2005 at 11:31 AM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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L--
Thanks for the suggestions! I'd love to have your muffin recipe!
--WorriedMom
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| L |
| | Oct 16, 2005 at 04:41 PM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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Hi WorriedMom, Here's the recipe. I know it by heart:
Ingredients:
1 stick butter (8 tablespoons)
1.5 cups sugar
2 eggs
2 cups flour
1 teaspoon salt
half teaspoon baking soda
1 cup mashed banana (I use 2 bananas)
half teaspoon vanilla
half cup sour cream
plenty of chopped walnuts or pecans (I don't measure these, but probably put in at least 2 cups)
Mix together the butter and sugar, then the eggs. Mix together the dry ingredients first, then add to the butter/sugar/egg mixture. Next add the banana, sour cream, and vanilla. Last add the nuts.
I put all of this mixture into a non-stick pan that has 4 LARGE muffin tins. That is key. Just make a huge muffin look like the normal size...none of this small cupcake sized muffin business!!! Each of these muffins should have about 1000 or more calories. And they are delicious! My d asks for them now even though she has moved on to less calorically dense breakfasts!
As Laura says, bon appetit! L |
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| cheforexic |
| | Oct 16, 2005 at 09:14 PM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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L, What an extraordinary post. I had no idea you could do so much on a strictly vegetarian menu. c |
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| momofdancer |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 11:51 AM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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What is the temp and cooking time for the muffins? If you don't have large muffin pans would the mini-bundt pans work? Thanks! They sound wonderful! |
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| L |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 12:11 PM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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oops, 350 degrees for just long enough to cook them so they stay really moist. In my pans it is 45 minutes. Mini bundt pans sound perfect and more beautiful! L |
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| Susan |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 12:32 PM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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Our vegetarian d also said she hated cream sauces, cheese, etc., but during refeeding we gave them to her anyway. We did try to alternate with other foods, though, to make everything more palatable. Like L, we added olive oil (120 cal/tbsp) and butter to just about everything. Here are some things that worked for us: 1. Chinese food: 2 cups of rice (about 450 cal) with stir-fried dish of veggies, tempeh (pressed soy beans minced and fried in olive oil first -- 1/3 package: 180 cal with 2 tbsp olive oil with garlic and soy sauce). That plus a glass of milk will get you between 8 and 900 cal. 2. Pasta with pesto sauce. This is a very easy quick meal. Again, big portion of pasta (about 2 cups cooked) with pesto (we used Buitoni with 300 cal per 1/3 cup?). Again, with a glass of milk and a hunk of bread, 120 to 160 cal, or one slice of Pepperidge Farm Texas Toast, 150 cal, and that's 8 to 900 cal. 3. Pasta with homemade or store-bought sauce. Add plenty of olive oil and parmesan cheese (shredded has more cal than grated). Eggplant will soak up lots of oil, so we often sauteed eggplant in olive oil and added it to sauces. We served milk and a good size piece of bread with every dinner just about. Sometimes we added a can of white beans to the sauce. 4. Lasagna and eggplant parmesan. 4. Peanut butter sandwiches: bread with 100 cal/slice plus 4 tbsp of peanut butter = 580 calories. What worked for us was to increase calories with oil, butter, etc. and serve larger portions. Hope this is helpful. I could probably come up with a few more suggestions and can provide more specific recipes, if needed. I clearly remember that feeling of dread every morning when I woke up and wondered what I was going to feed my d that day or how she would receive the food. This got much better as she got healthier, so hang in there. Good luck!!!!
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| WorriedMom |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 02:47 PM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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Thank you, thank you everyone. I am deeply appreciative.
My d has been fairly compliant up until now, but suddenly seems to have hit a wall and is not eating as much or as well. She's gained about 14 pounds and is now out of danger, but her resistance has suddenly increased about a hundred fold. Has anyone else seen this? We're not sure what to do--the "we'll sit here until you eat it" hasn't worked for us yet. We've sat at the table for upward of 2 hours, with her crying hysterically the whole time, at the end of which she is so irrational and beside herself I'm not sure she could eat.
My instinct tells me we have to go back to a more strict regime, the "nothing happens until you eat everything on the plate" tactic. But I'd love to hear from others who have experienced this kind of mid-treatment problem.
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| Jane |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 04:07 PM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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Dear Worried Mom, We had exactly this scenario--right down to the "let's get rid of the shake" talk. My d was out of physical danger and wasn't quite where she needed to be in terms of weight recovery. It was sort of tricky because early on the prospect of immediate hospitalization was the thing that kept her on track. Once she was out of the woods physically that wasn't credible any more. She really was in very great distress. I think that Susan's daughter had a similar sort of pattern too. There was a huge upswing in her attempts at negoiation. It was at this point that I got backed into feeding her exactly the same food everyday. There were a couple skipped meals and her doctor met us in the ER one afternoon for a full work up with every medical test known to man. I think it was more a demonstration of what hospital life was like than anything else. Psychiatric hospitalization was considered (she was in a really bad state of mind, suicidal--I was terrified.) We had a talk together and decided to try again at home. She was adamant that she could only eat three meals a day--no snack. Well, the snack was her shake and constituted almost a third of her daily calories. The doctor told her we could shift the shake to lunch and she seemed to accept that. There was a huge blowup afterwards but we stood firm and the shake stayed in. I did have a hard time getting in the same number of calories as I had before and her weight gain slowed a little. Getting through this patch really seemed to break the back of the anorexia beast though, and within a couple months she was at a reasonable weight and much more rational. She was placed on risperdal around the time of her ER visit but she's not sure if that helped or not. She dropped it with no problem once her weight was ok. I'd do whatever you need to do to keep her recovering. I feared getting "stuck" so much, and I could see how it could easily happen. That prospect kept me pushing. Maybe some time off school to illustrate that life stops till if she's not getting better? I think you're right that returning to stricter regime is probably a good idea. FWIW my d says she thought she'd never get better. I kept reassuring her that she didn't have far to go and that she'd be okay. Looking back I think the AN was cornered and fighting to hang on harder than ever. I know you've been fighting an epic battle for a while already, but stay strong. You've gotten some great food suggestions (those sound like some powerful and delicious muffins!) Mashed potatoes offer a great opportunity for including cream and butter. Meatloaf or anything with ground beef is good too. I'd say hang onto the shake too, but maybe I'm overly reliant on shakes. (My family jokes about my "shake issues"--I had a hard time dropping them even months after my d was weight restored.) Hang in there and good luck, Jane PS--If you have an iPod download "Better Things" (it's a Kinks song, but my favorite version is by Fountains of Wayne) and listen to it a few times.
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| WorriedMom |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 04:32 PM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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Thanks for the encouragement and for sharing your experience. It helps to know my d isn't the only one to hit this plateau. It makes sense that it's the AN struggling for life. I just talked to her treatment team, who agree that if she continues at plateau (or loses) for the next 2-3 weeks we'll be looking at IP. I'm hoping this will motivate her to keep pushing through.
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| sc |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 07:48 PM | Reply with quote | #12 |
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We are having this exact same issue. We succeeded in helping her to gain 9 pounds in 6 weeks and now she doesn't want to gain anymore. She got her exercize priviliges back at her 90% and now has said she is done gaining weight. As of today, per our conversation with her therapist, any day she doesn't finish her food she doesn't exercize the next day. Not as punishment but as " your health is the most important thing and we can't jeapordize that. We hope that you feel better tomorrow and can finish all your meals so you can get back to the activities that you enjoy when you are healthy." We will see how it goes. This part is so hard--you have my sympathy. I hope the resistance and the accompanying depression and rage subside soon. |
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| marie |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 11:24 PM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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Doing pretty well...right along then WHAM! Sunday was ED dinner again. 3/4 way thru, "This is good, Mom." and she stops eating. All behaviors seen previously are full-blown and we stall for hours. Friday I had asked if d had purged at all since we began refeeding. Her terrifying response was, " I'm uncomfortable answering that question." We've been with her! She has been home or at school and an occasional school outing with friends. I had been taking her to school, meeting with her for lunch until her last class began and picking her up after school. I was hoping to see her progress come home after school for 2 hrs in the present week but rethought this move (my h and I are both back to work). A reality check it is - in our 4th week. Improvement definitely, but Sunday was tough to watch her and try and help her thru. D's quote Friday quote had been gut wrenching...not sure why so much for me. H is picking her up after school this week. She had been doing pretty well and it was almost easy to get a tiny bit complaisant. It can get easy, I think for many parents (besides h and I) to wish to rush things. We have definitely learned ED can't be rushed. One bite at a time... |
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| marie |
| | Oct 17, 2005 at 11:31 PM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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Oh yes ! A high calorie suggestion: Instead of a easily rejected smoothie, we opt often for one or 2 "whey chocolate milks" with meals along with meal/desert. They sometimes go down better than the larger smoothie. 225-250 Cal 8 oz whole milk 2 T choc syrup 1/2 scoop whey protein (whey is milk protein and doesnt alter taste much) Shake it up and let bubbles settle before serving. |
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| Karen |
| | Dec 15, 2005 at 01:03 PM | Reply with quote | #16 |
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Thought I'd post this here, too, for those who may be looking for high-calorie info. In trying to find some information on warm, high-calorie drinks, I discovered a number of recipes on the Stanford Cancer Center website. Most are cold shakes, but could they be heated after blending? (http://cancer.stanfordhospital.com/healthInfo/nutritionAndCancer/during/highCalDrink/default) Chocolate-Peanut Butter Shake, 1070 calories: 1/2 c. heavy whipping cream; 3 tablespoons creamy peanut butter; 3 tablespoons chocolate syrup; 1 1/2 c. chocolate ice cream; Blend in blender. Hot Chocolate at 416 calories 3 oz. milk chocolate; 1/4 teaspoon vanilla; 1 teaspoon butter; 1 c. Half & Half®; Melt chocolate and butter. Add vanilla and slowly stir in Half & Half®, small amounts at a time. Reheat to desired temperature. This is a ready-made drink: Sandishake® - 600 calories per serving The Sandishakes are available at the Medical Plaza Pharmacy at 1101 Welch Road, Palo Alto, CA. They can also be purchased thru ScandiPharm, who makes the drink. ScandiPharm can be contacted at (800)472-2634 or at http://www.scandishake.com. More info about Scandishake at: http://www.axcan.com/scandishake_us.php |
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| INOH |
| | Dec 15, 2005 at 10:09 PM | Reply with quote | #17 |
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Those recipies are great! Thanks--the hot chocolate sounds great for the freezing weather sneaking up on us. I hear that winter is the easiest month to gain weight in--who knows? I sure hope so! |
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| nancy |
| | Dec 16, 2005 at 09:02 PM | Reply with quote | #18 |
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I was looking for avocado recipes (325 calories for one medium avocado) and thought this looked easy:
peanut bacon and avocado sandwich: Ingredients 8 thick slices of wholemeal bread, buttered 2 tbsp crunchy peanut butter 2 tbsp mayonnaise 8 rashers bacon, grilled 1 ripe avocado, thinly sliced and sprinkled with lemon juice shredded iceberg lettuce freshly ground black pepper Method 1. Spread the peanut butter on four slices of bread and mayonnaise on the other four. 2. Place the bacon, avocado, lettuce and pepper on the peanut butter spread slices and top with the mayonnaise spread slices. Cut each round into four.
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| Karen |
| | Dec 16, 2005 at 10:35 PM | Reply with quote | #19 |
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I can't wait to try the muffin recipe...in answer to the original question.... This may sound odd, but check out the recipes on the Food Network website (www.foodnetwork.com) under "Paula's Home Cooking". Paula Deen is a southern style chef and I think she puts butter in practically everything. She has a recipe for cheesy-mac (this week) that has butter, cheese and sour cream in it: 4 cups cooked elbow macaroni, drained 2 cups grated cheddar cheese 3 eggs, beaten 1/2 cup sour cream 4 tablespoons butter, cut into pieces 1/2 teaspoon salt 1 cup milk Preheat oven to 350 degrees F. Once you have the macaroni cooked and drained, place in a large bowl and while still hot and add the cheddar. In a separate bowl, combine the remaining ingredients and add to the macaroni mixture. Pour macaroni mixture into a casserole dish and bake for 30 to 45 minutes. Top with additional cheese if desired.
You can look up recipes from past shows. It may take a while to find what you want, but she really is the highest-fat chef I have ever seen. There is nothing low about her cooking! She also tends to use some ready-made items to make cooking easier. Hope this is of some help. |
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| dm |
| | Dec 17, 2005 at 01:18 PM | Reply with quote | #20 |
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I found an almond meal/flour in the bulk section at Whole Foods. It was near the Wild Rice. 100 grams is 604 calories. I am going to try adding it to the shakes. Cystic Fibrosis web sites also list high calorie alternatives and additions. |
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| Karen |
| | Dec 21, 2005 at 03:17 PM | Reply with quote | #22 |
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This morning I made my dear d hot cocoa: 2 T butter 1 T cocoa powder 1 c premium vanilla ice cream (substituted for the 1/2 c sugar in the original recipe) 1 c whole milk (you could substitute 1/2 c cream, 1/2 c milk) 3 T Ovaltine 1 t vanilla (optional) Melt butter, add cocoa stir. Add ice cream, melt & stir. Add milk, ovaltine and stir. I put it in the blender before it got really hot and returned it to the pot to heat. This made it creamier. This is a total of 785 calories (more if you do the cream/milk combination). You could add marshmallows if you like, too! |
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| rebecca |
| | Dec 22, 2005 at 10:44 AM | Reply with quote | #23 |
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Hi Everyone- First of all, Laura- I just got the book and I have been reading it voraciously- it is amazing. You are all such strong, compassionate women. I am just so sorry that dietitians haven't been schooled more in the Maudsley technique. My hope is to pass the book along to all of my dietitian friends and my sister who is a Nurse Practitioner Midwife at a large Boston hospital. I hope that people can open their eyes to the fact that traditional psychotherapy doesn't work for Anorexia. Anyway- My thoughts around the holidays for high calorie suggestions revolve around eggnog! You can either buy the super premium eggnog in the stores (which basically has the nutrition value of melted ice cream) almost 9 grams of fat in 1/2 cup and lots of calories- or you can make your own. Sans alcohol of course! Warm eggnog with nutmeg is especially delicious. You could even melt some vanilla Ben and Jerry's or Haagen Daaz and mix it with the eggnog. That would be a super drink for boosting calories- and with the eggs and milk- at least there is some redeeming nutritive value. Happy Holidays Everyone! -Rebecca |
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| Mari |
| | Dec 23, 2005 at 02:00 AM | Reply with quote | #24 |
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Creme brulee is our traditional Christmas Eve dessert. I recently learned how high in calories it is. Now I know it wasn't just the Christmas cookies making my pants tight around the holidays. It is very easy to make, too. Buy the really big ramekins, not those little whimpy ones. My daughter gets to burn the sugar with the torch. And somebody pass me the elastic waitbands..... |
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| tiredmom |
| | Dec 26, 2005 at 11:17 AM | Reply with quote | #25 |
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Carnation Instant Breakfast has worked great for us and it is so nutritious. My d drinks it ALL throughout the day. We always start the day off with 8 oz. steamed whole milk, 1 package Carnation French Vanilla sprinkled with cinnamon and nutmeg. It's so yummy and it keeps her warm. We later have breakfast and mid morning she's been having ANOTHER Carnation, 8oz. chilled whole milk with 1 package of Carnation Strawberry (delicious and 280 cal.) She eats lunch and then LATER has ANOTHER Carnation...chocolate this time. She has dinner and usually we eat a small dinner and she has a chilled Vanilla Carnation with it. sometimes we even sprinkle it on fruit and ice cream..etc. I get in about 1000 extra calories a day through Carnation Inst. Breakfast. I'll post what we are eating daily under the sample meal plan post. This stuff is good. |
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| nancy |
| | Dec 27, 2005 at 07:29 AM | Reply with quote | #26 |
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A new bottled product (refrigerated) in our store, "Hersheys vanilla cream milkshake" (there are other flavors but this has most calories) has 640 c per 16 oz bottle. It is next to the milk in our store. I think this will be convenient when I don't have time to make a shake, or to carry with us, or to mix with the shake (I did tonight) , or to serve as the mealtime drink instead of plain milk or juice.
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| Momof6 |
| | Dec 27, 2005 at 07:33 AM | Reply with quote | #27 |
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Agree! Those Hershey Shakes are easy. The Vanilla is higher calorie. They used to carry them at every store, but now I really have trouble finding them. |
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| Regina |
| | Jan 20, 2006 at 07:31 AM | Reply with quote | #29 |
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Hi--new to list and thread. Thanks for all the wonderful/helpful recipes and suggestions. My daughter is not (quite) sick of shakes yet, but concocting something that has enough calories that doesn't either taste weird or get repetitive is still tough.
Anyway, I ran across this website tonight, and it might be of interest to others...this is a shake/supplement powder that claims to pack 600+ calories into 8 oz. and I'm giving it a shot...even though it is on the pricey side. http://www.suplimednutrients.com/about.php
We should be getting the order in a week and be able to tell if it delivers on the claims within another week, so I'll post a review later. I apologize if anyone has already posted on this and I missed it in the thread...
Best wishes and good luck to all, Regina
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| Susan |
| | Jan 20, 2006 at 02:00 PM | Reply with quote | #30 |
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Regina, Thank you for sharing your "find". This is just the kind of product I searched for early on, but didn't find. It sounds wonderfully efficient, and hopefully, tasty. Please do let us know how it turns out. Good luck! |
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| Mommy54 |
| | March 09, 2006 at 09:20 PM | Reply with quote | #31 |
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my son has been gaining rapidly the past few weeks, mostly due to large amounts of nuts, chocolate, muffins, + milkshakes. my son has been experiencing major hunger periods where he will eat 1000s of calories at a time, and he has regained all his weight, but he hasnt stopped gaining! he is becoming obese, in the 88% for his age (14). pre-an, he was only 45%!!!!!! i love him, and he is becoming quite anxious about his "extra" weight. i dont want to put him on a diet so as not to trigger an. i dont know what to do. any advice? he is reaching an unhealthy weight again, just on the opposte side of the scale!
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| rmc |
| | March 09, 2006 at 10:09 PM | Reply with quote | #32 |
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This is not responsive to the previous post but since this topic is still active I would like to know how you convince your child to drink shakes and eat hight calorie foods. Don't they read nutritional labels? Our daughter is absolutely adamantly opposed to shakes in particular. We would have to hold her down and use a feeding tube. rmc |
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| dooger |
| | March 09, 2006 at 10:34 PM | Reply with quote | #33 |
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This is a big topic - basically the essence of the Maudsley method - how do you get your anorexic child to eat what she needs? It doesn't matter what the food is - if it wasn't shakes, it would be something else she would be fearful of. I would refer to one of the other threads that is pinned on top of this message board called "How do you get a stubborn anorexic to eat?". It has some classic scenarios and appropriate responses and really describes what some of us have had to go through to get our daughters to eat (even high calorie items). The other resource is Lock and LeGrange's Help your teen beat an eating disorder. It also contains valuable strategies and advice on this topic. Good luck. |
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| Susan |
| | March 10, 2006 at 03:32 PM | Reply with quote | #34 |
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Mommy54, Maybe you could enlist the aid of your pediatrician and nutritionist (if you worked with one). They could communicate to your son what a healthy meal plan would be for him now -- one that would keep him in a safe place. As for your interactions with your son, does it make sense to approach it the same way you might have done when you were trying to get his weight up? That is, you're going to help him maintain a healthy meal plan until he can manage it on his own? |
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| INOH |
| | March 11, 2006 at 03:01 PM | Reply with quote | #35 |
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Does anyone know if this scenario is common? This is my daughter's fear also...(becoming obese after refeeding because she can't stop eating/will get used to eating these huge meals she must complete now) Has anyone else heard of situations in which the kids can't cut down again because they' gotten used to big portions? |
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| LB |
| | March 26, 2006 at 08:49 AM | Reply with quote | #36 |
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I think every anorexic is terrified of becoming obese and an overeater - but that isn't real recovery - it is substituting one eating disorder for another. As someone else suggested, once she has stabilised you can help her as you have done already - lovingly and compassionately help her to eat 'normal' portions. |
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| A |
| | April 08, 2006 at 09:08 PM | Reply with quote | #37 |
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Are you people crazy? I know you love your kids and all but really by sneaking around and adding tremendous amounts of high fat typically unhealthy things into there food is kind of cruel. I also notice that this type of behaviour can lead to obesity. Find a happy medium people |
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| Jane |
| | April 08, 2006 at 10:19 PM | Reply with quote | #38 |
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A, No, we are not crazy. You make a common mistake when you assume that parents "sneak" calories into the diets of their ill children. This is not the case. It's simply a matter of meeting the health needs of the sufferer with the minimum amount of stress. In our family we did this was by preparing nutrient dense foods and not disclosing the calorie content. My daughter's anorexia was making her life miserable enough--she didn't need to be stressing over calorie counts during the refeeding process. In many ways this is similar to hospital treatment of anorexics--calorie deficits need to be corrected in order for health to be restored.
You ought to re-examine your thinking about what foods are "unhealthy". All people need a balance of nutrition (including protein, fats and carbs) for health. A temporary increase in calories to remedy a health problem is not likely to result in obesity.
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| nancy |
| | April 26, 2006 at 09:23 PM | Reply with quote | #39 |
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A bit off topic but interesting, I came across some articles about famine relief, and how mothers need to be aided in refeeding their malnourished children at home, b/c hospital care carries high risks of infections, and b/c mothers leave the siblings abandoned while remaining at hospital. (Side note- some of these children apparently become "anorexic" or afraid to eat b/c if the child "refuses to eat" he/she is "anorexic" and must be placed in hospital).
In these articles they talk about various therapeutic foods. A brand new one called 'plumpy'nut' is a peanut butter paste that can be eaten straight from the foil packet up to 3 times a day or used to supplement other foods. It seems to have remarkable weight and health restoring properties, almost miraculous to the mothers who give it to their children, and see changes within days. (Maybe it seems misguided of me to draw any parallels at all between malnourished children of famine and anorexics-but parents of anorexics can be desperate too).
I have wondered if therapeutic foods for anorexia (besides ensure which seems to have aquired bad rep for tasting awful) are considered by dcotors treating anorexia, or is there a market for their development, or would this be accomodating abnormal eating habits (but could not be more abnormal than tube feeding).
It is so hard to feed so many calories (has taken ALL DAY LONG EVERY day for me and my d when we were actually maintaining a total refeeding approach-so an isolating experience) when tons of food are so frightening for someone with an (and in our case I had to serve duplicate meals to my older d, whether she ate it all or not, to maintain the ritual that allowed my an d to eat). We have tried different powder mixes to add to shakes but they give a bad flavor...
A calorie dense and nutrition rich ( but seemingly small amount) easy to eat away from home or between meals food could be so helpful, maybe during initial refeeding. At any rate refeeding is in limbo for us b/c my d decided to overcome her ritual upon turning 14, and in the interim is still struggling hard not to comapore, and having a very hard time eating enough, since w/out the ritual eating is very unsafe, or in her words "impossible" in ways I just cannot comprehend, like climbing straight up a brick wall. So- now in another phase of our journey... |
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| Lisa |
| | May 03, 2006 at 12:18 AM | Reply with quote | #40 |
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First, my personal favourite... Hot Chocolate {High Calorie} 4 oz Half & half cream 4 oz Whole milk 2 tb Chocolate syrup Heat milk and cream. Stir in syrup and milk powder until smooth. Serve immediately. ALSO... http://www.hdny.org/recipes.html this is a great site for some high calories 'normal' foods, the following recipies are provided... Salmon Ala Blue, Baked Chilcken Salad, Hamburger Strogonoff, "Impossible" Quiche, Veal Marsala, Noodles Alfredo, Apple Kuchen, Bread Pudding, Cheescake, Cheery Cheese Tarts, Impossible Pie, Oatmeal Brown Bread, Pumpkin Chocolate Chip Bread, "Almond Joy" Shake, Pina Colada Chicken. And I just googled high calorie recipes (i didnt even know you could do that!) and came up with some extremely good sites... There are some great drinks, if you want to move away from the smoothies. http://www.mealsforyou.com/cgi-bin/recipeCategory?category.calories+orderBy.calories+dir.DESC+loHi.high http://www.dieteticsatwork.com/client_education/sample_high_calorie_high_protein_recipe_final.pdf http://www.cancer.org/docroot/MBC/content/MBC_6_1_Recipes.asp http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/UVAHealth/hub_cancer/reciphic.cfm http://www.nnuh.nhs.uk/docs%5Cleaflets%5C172.pdf |
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| rob |
| | July 28, 2006 at 03:27 PM | Reply with quote | #41 |
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My wife makes a tremendous 1000+ calorie oatmeal for breakfast. Here is the recipe: INGREDIENT CALORIES 1/2 cup oatmeal 150 1/2 cup heavy whipping cream 400 1/3 cup water (to make it less thick) 1/4 cup raisens 130 COOK THIS 2-3 minutes in microwave Add: 1/4 cup sunflower seeds or nuts 200 1/2 banana 50 1 scoop protein powder 100 Our AN daughter prefers this for breakfast. |
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| ripley |
| | Aug 09, 2006 at 07:54 PM | Reply with quote | #42 |
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I'm cutting and pasting the following information from a diet article about 'foods that fool' people into thinking they're low-calorie and low-fat. I hope the author won't mind it being used by parents re-feeding their kids back to health! We didn't count calories during that phase, but many of these foods were on my d's menu: "Granola -- Most brands are loaded with calories and sugar. In fact, granola is one of the most calorie dense cereals on the market. A typical ¨ø cup serving has 220 calories and 17 grams of sugar - that's more than 4 teaspoons of sugar. What's more, most people pour 2-cup portions - that's a whopping 660 calories and 51 grams sugar (12 teaspoons -- yikes!).
2% Reduced-Fat Milk -- 2% reduced-fat milk is not that low-fat/low-calorie when you consider that whole milk is 3.3% fat.
Breakdown for 1 cup milk: - Whole milk: 150 calories - 2% reduced fat milk: 120 calories - 1% reduced fat milk: 100 calories - Skim milk: 80 calories
Chicken Caesar Salads -- It's a salad, right? What could be unhealthy? Thanks to excessive dressing, croutons, and cheese, a standard chicken Caesar salad can total 1,130 calories and add more than 90 grams of fat to your diet!
Dried Fruit -- All fruit is packed with nutrition; however, dried fruit is significantly higher in calories than fresh fruit when you calculate comparable amounts. That's because you're taking out all the moisture leaving a small piece of concentrated sugar (albeit "natural" sugar). Consider this: - 12 small pieces of dried mango = 320 calories - 2 red apples + 15 grapes + ¨ö small cantaloupe = 320 calories
Yogurt Covered Nuts -- This yogurt snack is strictly food for the soul! It's filled with calories, sugar, fat... and clearly NO active cultures. In fact, 20 yogurt covered nuts = 460 calories, 32 grams fat, 14 grams saturated fat, and 8 teaspoons sugar.
Banana Chips -- Bananas fried in oil and sugar - over the top! Consider that 1 cup typically provides 300 calories, 20 grams fat, 18 grams saturated fat (that's the artery clogging type), and 19 grams sugar (4.75 teaspoons).
Trail Mix -- Although packed with healthy nutrients and fiber, traditional trail mix is also loaded with calories that add up quickly. In fact, ¨ö cup typically equals 350 calories (that's the same number of calories as 11 cups of air-popped popcorn).
Fruit Smoothies -- It's true, fruit smoothies can provide a lot of nutrition, but they pack in the calories as well. One 24-ounce smoothie provides about 450 calories. That's the same amount of calories in 10-12 doughnut holes! " |
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| Shawn |
| | Oct 14, 2006 at 03:35 PM | Reply with quote | #43 |
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Hi,
Reviving a thread...is L still around? Or anybody else who can give me a good recipe for homemade pizza crust? L's husband used cream in his recipe...Also, L had a recipe for tortillas and refried beans...
I'm desperately trying to pack in calories. My AN daughter refuses shakes, smoothies,and muffins...so I was perusing this old thread for other recipes that might not get her hackles up...I have five pages of notes from this thread..But can always use more!
Thank you,
Shawn |
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| megan |
| | Oct 15, 2006 at 10:40 AM | Reply with quote | #44 |
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hi.
I dont really have that many new ideas, but I'll share what has been helping my D.
1. Bagels and peanut butter & banana. can be up to 700 or more calories (depending on bagel size/type and how much PB you put on)
2. Full fat yogurt. it's not as scary as ice cream, but has PLENTY of calories. make a healthy high calorie 'parfait' with 12 oz full fat yogurt, 1/2 cup granola and some cut up fruit. It's delicious and high in calories.
3. Starbucks. It's always a treat and the drinks can be VERY high calorie. we havent worked ourselves up to having the pastries yet, but a Venti Vanilla Creme with whole milk and whipped cream is 520 calories and 60% of the daily calcium needs!
4. trail mix is very high calorie, and very nutritious. 1/4 cup can be around 160 and its not very bulky so they can eat a lot.
thats all for now. i hope this helps! |
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| lwm |
| | Oct 15, 2006 at 11:11 AM | Reply with quote | #45 |
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Bagles from somewhere like Einstein's or Bruegger's can be around 300 calories apiece. We put 4 or 5 tablespoons of almond butter on a toasted bagel for our d's lunch, bringing it to 600 or 700 calories.
I make homemade pizza crust with a great recipe:
Put 1 T active yeast into 1-1/2 cups of warm water and 1 T sugar. Let rise for 5 minutes (to make sure yeast is alive).
Mix 2 C white flour, 1-1/4 C whole wheat flour, 1/4 C olive oil, and a little salt in a bowl. Add the yeast mixture. Knead about 5 minutes. Coat with olive oil, put in a big bowl and cover bowl with plastic wrap (very important). Let rise in a warm place for 1-2 hours. Divide into 2 or 3 parts, roll out, top with sauce and cheese and other good stuff, and bake at 450 until done, about 10 minutes.
Enjoy.
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| Shawn |
| | Oct 15, 2006 at 11:15 AM | Reply with quote | #46 |
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LWM--thanks for the pizza crust recipe. DO you think I could substitute milk for the water?
Shawn |
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| lwm |
| | Oct 15, 2006 at 11:22 AM | Reply with quote | #47 |
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hi shawn,
i've never made it with milk, but why not? good idea!
--lwm |
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| Shawn |
| | Oct 15, 2006 at 01:19 PM | Reply with quote | #48 |
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LWM,
Any idea how many calories a slice of your pizza would be? What else did you give your daughter for dinner that night? How many slices did you insist she eat?
shawn |
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| lwm |
| | Oct 15, 2006 at 01:34 PM | Reply with quote | #49 |
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I'm not sure about calories, but that recipe makes 2 pizzas about equal sizes, and i used to feed her half of one of them. plus bread with butter. plus milk. plus salad with dressing. and dessert.
because my d had trouble with tomatoes (very acidic) i put pat olive oil over the dough, arrange cooked shrimp and olives (too of her favorite foods before an), and then cover it all with a lot of mozzarella and parmesan.
good luck--
lwm |
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| Tryingmom |
| | Oct 15, 2006 at 03:27 PM | Reply with quote | #50 |
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Hi,
For figuring out calories, try nutritiondata.com. You can enter the quantities of the ingredients, number of servings, and it gives you calories per serving.
Tryingmom |
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